Panhards. (Formerly Identify German Armoured Car)

Discussion in 'Armoured' started by Dave55, May 10, 2021.

  1. Dave55

    Dave55 Atlanta, USA

    Anyone know what this is?

    Thanks

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  2. Richelieu

    Richelieu Well-Known Member

    It’s actually a French Panhard 178, of which large numbers were captured in 1940 and subsequently used by the Germans.
     
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  5. Temujin

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  6. Quarterfinal

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  8. ltdan

    ltdan Nietenzähler

    These were actually quite serviceable vehicles, but they were overtaxed by the extreme conditions in the SU: The Wehrmacht lost 107 out of 190 in 1941.
    From 1943 onwards, the last examples were only used for rear services, some of them were converted into panzer railcars.
    The Panhards in Dave's pictures were probably taken sometime between 1940 and early 1942, because after that they started to camouflage vehicles with all kinds of colours - especially scout cars and the like.
     
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  9. JDKR

    JDKR Member

    Here's the clip from which Dave extracted the stills to start this thread:


    Panhards shown from 13:10 to 16:44.
     
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  10. Quarterfinal

    Quarterfinal Well-Known Member

    After my earlier mischief, I knew I’d seen a looky-likey somewhere:

    History on Wheels Museum

    Hubert, as driven by Clarence (Klarenz?), was it?
     
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  12. Gary Kennedy

    Gary Kennedy Member

    Hi Ian, finally got you over here have we!

    Gary
     
  13. Yan Taylor

    Yan Taylor Well-Known Member

    Hi Gary, yeah I have been made welcome by the members who have given me so much information about my late relatives.
    Hope you are tip top and still doing great work on your site.



    I have already been asking questions about one of my favourite subjects, TO/Es, British infantry company on the northwest frontier of India circa 1920 to 1939.
    Got a great response too.


    I am really struggling to find my previous post, I had to really search for this thread.
    On the other military site I was on, I just had to log in and look at my previous post section and find the sites I have written on.



    Going back to the Panhard, you may want to check out the 5cm pz sp wg 178 p204(f), basically the Germans stuck a Pak 38 on it.

    Ian
     
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  14. Gary Kennedy

    Gary Kennedy Member

    Hi Ian, you can search for 'posted by member', which should bring up your full posting history.
     
  15. Owen

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    Box pops up.
    See Messages.
    Tap/ click on the number.
    Your posts will be listed.
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  16. ltdan

    ltdan Nietenzähler

    The Wehrmacht used surplus 5-cm KwK L/42 guns from the Pz III for their Panhards:
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    The French thought "Tiens ma bière!" - and mounted the 5-cm PaK L/60 on it :
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    (used by the FFI Escadre Besnier)
     
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  17. Yan Taylor

    Yan Taylor Well-Known Member

    It seems that I got stuck between the two versions, I knew it was a 5cm weapon, on the 5cm pz sp wg 178 p204(f) clearly it is a KwK not a PaK.
    School boy error on my part :blush:

    Ian

    Thanks for sorting out the navigation issues out for me guys :cool:

    Ian
     
  18. ltdan

    ltdan Nietenzähler

    Ian, no need to fret, history doesn't have to be rewritten because of it - and I've made far more serious mistakes, by the way.
    But my rivet-counter attitude simply could not allow me to let this go uncommented. :rolleyes:
     
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  19. Yan Taylor

    Yan Taylor Well-Known Member

    I actually learned something Dan, no problem at all.
    I wonder how many of those pak 38 panhards the french had.

    Ian
     
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    ltdan Nietenzähler

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