It Ain't Half Hot, Mum - banned by BBC forever

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  1. wowtank

    wowtank Very Senior Member

    Maybe I should choose another user name....:unsure:

    Keith

    Maybe you should or Von Poop will have you sent up the jungle so fast you feet wont touch the ground :)
     
  2. At Home Dad (Returning)

    At Home Dad (Returning) Well-Known Member

    Doesn't count. The cast were Indian so it's post-ironic (or summat like that anyway).

    That's almost the one point snatched at by the BBC no doubt -
    that the leading actor, Michael Bates, was a Caucasian 'blacked up'
    to play an Indian. What is ironic though is that Bates was actually
    born in India and based his character on an amalgam of real people

    However, I personally think the programme is banned as any rerun
    would shine a very hard light on the current state of comedy writing
    (by committee) and reveal it to be a pile of crap which cant better
    a series made in the 70's and set in the 40's...:D
     
  3. phylo_roadking

    phylo_roadking Very Senior Member

    It all comes down to choice.

    WE all have the choice to watch it....or not. To complain about it...or not.

    But it was made with OUR MONEY...

    So who the hell are the BBC to decide for us whether we can watch what we paid for or not????

    AND I doubt there's a single BBC executive involved in making this decision who was actually working for the BBC between 1974 and 1981! In career terms of backoffice workers, it's thirty years and more ago!

    So if it's not going to be shown - are we going to get a refund??? Bloody doubt it!!!
     
  4. Mike L

    Mike L Very Senior Member

    Do I detect a note of annoyance Phil?
     
  5. phylo_roadking

    phylo_roadking Very Senior Member

    Over this and SO many other decisions made by the Beeb.

    Yet they'll come crawling to US, begging US to rifle our video collections and shelves for any missing episodes of bestselling series THEY want to re-release and make a buck on!!! And not cheap either! Next time you're in Tescos, scope out the cover price of a re-realesed 1970s Dr Who series, for instance...!

    All the Two Ronnies' jokes about the BBC Canteen notwithstanding - they seem to have baked a mean cake...that the Beeb want to have AND eat it!
     
  6. phylo_roadking

    phylo_roadking Very Senior Member

    That's almost the one point snatched at by the BBC no doubt -
    that the leading actor, Michael Bates, was a Caucasian 'blacked up'
    to play an Indian.



    And yet I do believe it was a terrestrial channel last week that happily showed "The Great St. Trinian's Train Robbery", where two actors...including Frankie Howerd!...did EXACTLY the same...

    When the Beeb next shows "Silver Streak" in some graveyard slot...will it snip the long scene with Gene Wilder all blacked up? Doubt it... ;)
     
  7. Mike L

    Mike L Very Senior Member

    I lost faith with Aunty BEEB many years ago. The relocation to Manchester has all the hallmarks of a disaster whilst some of the architects of the move remain in London.
    Why do we pay the license fee?
    Because we have to, or buy another service we have already paid for.
     
  8. phylo_roadking

    phylo_roadking Very Senior Member

    Why do we pay the license fee?
    Because we have to, or buy another service we have already paid for


    Just because we HAVE to pay it doesn't mean we can be ignored though ;) Or rather...should be.
     
  9. Mike L

    Mike L Very Senior Member

    Do I sense a TV British revolution here Phil?
    I don't understand why freeview BBC3 and 4 start and finish at such strange hours. I would have thought 2 x 24 hour channels, even if just showing yet another repeat would be better. Who made these strange decisions? I just can't see the logic.
     
  10. PsyWar.Org

    PsyWar.Org Archive monkey

    Just because we HAVE to pay it doesn't mean we can be ignored though ;) Or rather...should be.

    The problem with the Beeb is that it does take complaints rather seriously, in fact too seriously.

    Quite a few people have complained in the past that the license fee should not be 'wasted' on showing 30-year-old repeats but for new programming.

    That the BBC should not offend or ridicule anyone who may take offensive at something they may or may not have done.

    People complained that the BBC was too inefficient (despite providing the cheapest, most extensive TV, radio, news and internet coverage in the world). So production and post-production staff contracts were changed so they did not receive overtime for their typical 16-hour days; every department was given an unworkable brief to work as a fully commercial enterprise but with only one internal customer and not allowed to seek external clients; much of BBC property around the country and in London was sold off, TV Centre was extended and a new premises at White City was built to centralise all the staff.

    What happens, most of the TV production and post-production departments in the BBC are forced to close down or considerably down size because their one internal customer like swanky West End edit suites with leather sofas and free fresh coffee to those in TV Centre. TV production is almost entirely farmed out to independent production companies instead.

    People complain that the BBC is too London-centric so what is left of it moves up north and puts TV Centre up for sale after investing millions in extending and refurbishing it over the last decade.

    Anyway, I'm sure some of us might miss it when BBC-TV is finally laid to rest and we're all forced to pay the Murdochs 100 quid a month to be force fed advertising.
     
  11. Vitesse

    Vitesse Senior Member

    And yet I do believe it was a terrestrial channel last week that happily showed "The Great St. Trinian's Train Robbery", where two actors...including Frankie Howerd!...did EXACTLY the same...

    When the Beeb next shows "Silver Streak" in some graveyard slot...will it snip the long scene with Gene Wilder all blacked up? Doubt it... ;)
    Last night's "Sounds of the 70s" on BBC2 showed a clip of The Two Ronnies blacked up as part of a steel band.
     
  12. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Anyway, I'm sure some of us might miss it when BBC-TV is finally laid to rest and we're all forced to pay the Murdochs 100 quid a month to be force fed advertising.

    I already miss watching F1 live coverage of every race .
    10 out of 20 is not very good.
    My mates who watch F1 on Sky say they prefer the Beeb's coverage that won many awards last season.
     
  13. PsyWar.Org

    PsyWar.Org Archive monkey

    I already miss watching F1 live coverage of every race .
    10 out of 20 is not very good.
    My mates who watch F1 on Sky say they prefer the Beeb's coverage that won many awards last season.

    Me too. I couldn't quite keep up with what was going on watching the Beeb's edited highlights of Sunday's race.
     
  14. wowtank

    wowtank Very Senior Member

    The problem with the Beeb is that it does take complaints rather seriously, in fact too seriously.

    Quite a few people have complained in the past that the license fee should not be 'wasted' on showing 30-year-old repeats but for new programming.

    That the BBC should not offend or ridicule anyone who may take offensive at something they may or may not have done.

    People complained that the BBC was too inefficient (despite providing the cheapest, most extensive TV, radio, news and internet coverage in the world). So production and post-production staff contracts were changed so they did not receive overtime for their typical 16-hour days; every department was given an unworkable brief to work as a fully commercial enterprise but with only one internal customer and not allowed to seek external clients; much of BBC property around the country and in London was sold off, TV Centre was extended and a new premises at White City was built to centralise all the staff.

    What happens, most of the TV production and post-production departments in the BBC are forced to close down or considerably down size because their one internal customer like swanky West End edit suites with leather sofas and free fresh coffee to those in TV Centre. TV production is almost entirely farmed out to independent production companies instead.

    People complain that the BBC is too London-centric so what is left of it moves up north and puts TV Centre up for sale after investing millions in extending and refurbishing it over the last decade.

    Anyway, I'm sure some of us might miss it when BBC-TV is finally laid to rest and we're all forced to pay the Murdochs 100 quid a month to be force fed advertising.

    We pay about 70 quid for Sky that is for 2 boxes one soon to be upgraded to HD and supplied free and I can watch a hell of lot of there content on PC or Xbox and I hardly ever watch an advert. People always seem to knock Sky but don't forget it is not a monopoly BT will do you some TV as will Cable. I don't know if you have Sky or not but I have had it for over 10 years and I find it a hell of a lot better value for money than the BBC. And don't forget UK Gold is owned partly by the BBC and i believe that is one of the most popular channels showing content all ready pay for by the license fee. I believe it was the last channel to show It ant half hot mum a few years ago.
     
  15. PsyWar.Org

    PsyWar.Org Archive monkey

    Wowtank, the issue is really about whether you want purely commercial TV or maintain some public service TV.

    You're paying 70 quid a month for Sky? What's the BBC costing about 12 quid a month. That covers all BBC TV channels, national and local radio stations, world service radio and TV, international news coverage, internet services and maintaining the national terrestrial broadcasting infrastructure. The license fee also subsidises ITV companies, Channel 4 and 5 to get access to the airwaves.

    What happens when the license fee finally goes. Do you think that perhaps your 70 quid a month might soon become 82 quid a month? Actually I'd wager probably quite a lot more when the commercial organisations are the ones setting the price point for TV in the UK.

    I don't have Sky but am well acquainted with fully commercial TV services that pander purely to the interests of advertisers and audience viewing figures.

    Anyway there should be room for both public service and commercial interests in television production in the UK. But the decline imposed on the BBC since the late 1980's has had nothing to do with the interests of either the British public or the BBC but the interests of commercial broadcasters jealous of the BBC's global reach.

    Getting way off topic so I’ll get off my soap box now.
     
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  17. Staffsyeoman

    Staffsyeoman Member

    I suppose the insurmountable object here is a white actor blacked up (Michael Bates, despite being born in India... served as an officer in the Indian Army etc. etc.). Complete no-no now, no allowances for period. (So don't expect to see Olivier's Othello any time soon either). Also suggested that Windsor Davies' accusation of "pooftahs!" has damned it - but surely the gay constituency would like the greasepaint and drag elements, which Croft and Perry were surely embracing with a nod an a wink.

    What enervates me is that the natives were often outwitting their 'masters' - and what's wrong with showing that?

    "It's political correctness gone mad, I tell you!" (c) The Daily Mail.
     
  18. Bernard85

    Bernard85 WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    good day at home dad,23rd april.2012.01:20pm.re:dont ban the shows ban the B.B.C..regards bernard85. :phone:
     
  19. bamboo43

    bamboo43 Very Senior Member

    Carla Lane's Butterflies will be next.

    I was watching an episode last Friday, when my two teenage daughters sat down with me and asked me "what is this rubbish?" We watched the whole program, during which the husband of Wendy Craig was berating her for wanting to go out to work now that the boys were grown up. My daughters were disgusted by the husband's attitude. This was followed by Wendy Craig clipping the boys around their heads for being cheeky to their father and the father leaving the house to persue his butterfly collecting, with real butterflies being harmed in the making of the program.

    Those were the days! :)
     
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  20. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    I remember that first time around.around, my Mum would have it on .
    I hated it then & have no wish to rewatch it.
     

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