Lincolnshire Regiment

Discussion in 'Searching for Someone & Military Genealogy' started by matthew.clarke, Aug 23, 2017.

  1. Hi I'm trying to confirm which regiment my Grandfather George Walter Clarke may have been in before I order his service record, as I have so little detail to go on I want to provide as much information to the MOD as possible.

    I don't have a service number unfortunately and nor do I have any pictures or documents related to his service. There are just two things "known" by the family 1. That he was at Dunkirk 2. He was with the Royal Artillery.

    I have already had some great help from a member who have searched the enlistment records for the RA and he does not appear nor does he appear on the casualty lists, these lists do not include men who transferred to RA units from other units so I'd like to ask if anyone has links or access to the enlistment lists for the Lincolnshire Regiment?

    George Walter Clarke
    D.O.B: 22nd April 1910
    Born/lived: Lincoln, Lincolnshire
    Survived active service

    Thanks in advance for any help that you can offer.
     
  2. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    Hi Matthew

    Do you mean he was in the Lincs originally and transferred to the RA or the other way around? Another alternative, he could have been RA for the duration but the regiment could be affiliated to Lincs?

    I suspect forum member Ramacal will be alon shortly to help out. Rob has a interest in Lincs and related RA units.
     
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  3. Hi,

    I'm unsure and there in lies the problem. I'm going by just a few snippets of information that have been passed down so there's a chance that some or all of that info is not entirely reliable.

    My uncles believe he served in the RA but a search doesn't show him enlisting. So I'm making an assumption that he may have enlisted in the Lincolns and then may (or may not) have transferred to an RA unit later, I have discovered that his brother was in the RA (yet to fully confirm this but pretty certain) and I'm not sure if this is relevant or even possibly where the belief that he was in the RA comes from.

    Sorry I can't be more specific.
     
  4. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    It's quite difficult to identify a unit via the internet unless the soldier was killed during the war. See if Rob can help when he logs on but it may be a case of paying £30 and applying for a copy of his original service records from the MOD.
     
  5. Tullybrone

    Tullybrone Senior Member

    Hi,

    MOD will search on full name and DOB only. I would apply with what you know. I understand from a forum post earlier this week that if there is no trace MOD return the £30.

    Good Luck

    Steve Y
     
  6. Oh I was under the impression it was non refundable, if that's the case I have nothing to loose.

    Thanks Steve.
     
  7. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    It's unlikely they'll not find him, I think I've heard of that once in around ten years. However as far as I wasn't aware they refunded if a search was unsuccessful so I'd confirm that with the MOD when applying. Like you say, if that is the case you have nothing to loose.
     
  8. Tullybrone

    Tullybrone Senior Member

    Hi,

    Information I quoted from a previous post is incorrect. I've just been on MOD site and it clearly states that no refunds will be made if no records are found.

    Steve Y
     
  9. Buteman

    Buteman 336/102 LAA Regiment (7 Lincolns), RA Patron

    It will take a while to carry out a manual search through my copies of the Nominal Rolls of the Lincolns, but I will do my best to find George Walter CLARKE.
     
  10. Thank you any help or information will be greatly appreciated, I will hold on to see if you find anything before applying to the MOD.

    Thank you again.
     
  11. Buteman

    Buteman 336/102 LAA Regiment (7 Lincolns), RA Patron

    Hi Matthew,

    I've gone through 16,000 names so far, with no result. Even if I find your man, still apply for the service records, as they will give you lots of useful information.

    Regards

    Rob
     
  12. Yeah I have decided I'll go ahead and order them anyway, from what Drew has said it sounds like they are pretty good.

    Thanks again for taking the time.

    Matt
     
  13. Buteman

    Buteman 336/102 LAA Regiment (7 Lincolns), RA Patron

    Hi Matt,

    I've found one man called "George Clarke" (no middle name) in the Lincoln Nominal Rolls. It does not look like your man, so I hope the service record will come trumps.

    Service No: 4801367, enlisted 27/3/1935. Transferred to another unit on 9/12/1936.



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  14. I think this could well be my Grandfather I'm curious as to why you suspect otherwise? This would make him 26 when he enlisted, and it's conceivable that he either transferred again to the RA or the family has confused the RE with RA.

    Thank you so much for taking the time to look through your records I can now at least give some detailed information to the MOD when they do their search, even if this is not him its a pretty good place to start looking and I'll be happy to share the results once they return.

    Matt
     
  15. Tony56

    Tony56 Member Patron

    Sorry to chip in at this late stage.

    There appear to be two RA enlistment records for George Walter Clarke; you say these records have been searched, so have you ruled these out?

    Service Nos. 1652689 (Discharged 15/7/42) & 11000488.


    Was he living in Westwick Gardens in 1939? There is a GW Clarke with the correct birthday who is described as a ‘General labourer, Heavy worker’; if this is him it looks as if he had not signed up at that time.

    Until you get hold of his service records I think it will all be speculation.
     
  16. Yes he was in Westwick Gardens its where my dad grew up, and listed as a "Laborer Retired" on his death certificate. I'm assuming that this was taken from the 1939 Register? And if this is the case would it have been possible for a man to have been drafted/enlist and join the BEF to at Dunkirk in under a year my gut says no.

    Another member had looked through the RA enlistment records but didn't turn up anything, I appreciate that this is all speculative at the moment and thank you very much for taking the time.
     

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