Hi Everyone, I am wondering id anyone can help me find out what happened to MTB 630 on the 1st May 1943, when 3 crew members died, including:- ABLE SEAMAN PERCY NORMAN CLARK Service Number: P/JX348646 Regiment & Unit/Ship - Royal Navy, H.M.S. Midge Date of Death - Died 01 May 1943 Age 19 years old Buried or commemorated at HOPE CEMETERY Grave 260. United Kingdom As you can see he was buried at home, so his body was recovered, but he was involved in some action as he is described as "Died in War Service." Can anyone tell me what action he was involved in please. Any help appreciated, Regards, Mavis Williams
V 1241 Stangenwalde Kriegsmarine The Vorpostenboot was sunk in the North Sea off Terschelling, Friesland, Netherlands in a battle with HMMGB 605, HMMGB 606, HMMGB 610, HMMGB 612, HMMTB 624, HMMTB 630 and HMMTB 632 List of shipwrecks in May 1943 - Wikipedia And records available at the British National Archives MTBs 630 and 650: Damaged by a Shell and Machine Gun. Includes 8 photographs depicting: MTBs 630 and 650: shell and machine gun damage. Dated 1943. https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C2754706 Bomb and Gunfire. Cotsmuir. Blighty. Clotilde. Mondara. SGB 6. MGB 608. Snapdragon. Alarm. MGB 601. Adam. Sarpedon. MGB 108, 110. MGB 119, 122. MGB 238, 345. MGB 607, 612. MTB 621. Roberts. MTB 211. ML 352. MTB 617. MGB 610, 606. Egret. MTB 617, 621, 630, 650, 671. MTB 313. MTB 77. Cadmus. MMS 287. Queen Emma https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C2754790 CLARK, Percy N, Able Seaman, P/JX 348646, MTB.630, 1 May 1943, surface action, killed RN Casualties in WW2 by Name - Ci
Info I found 30/4/43 MGB 605, MGB 606, MGB 610, MGB 612 and MGB 621 with MTB 624, MTB 630 and MTB 632 depart Great Yarmouth to patrol the northern section of the Dutch coast. MGB 621 is compelled to turn back with an engine defect. MGB 606 and MGB 612 with MTB 624 patrol the outer convoy routes off Vlieland and Terschelling. MGB 605 and MGB 610 with MTB 630 and MTB 632 patrol the inner convoy routes. 0500 Both groups turn for home and shortly afterwards MGB 605 and MGB 610 with MTB 630 and MTB 632 sight four German vessels and close hoping that they will be taken for E Boats. MGB 605 and MGB 610 with MTB 630 and MGB 632 engage with gunfire and severely damage three Flak Lighters. A German account states the force was four boats from 12. Vorposten-Flotilla and. V 1241 / Stangenwalde was sunk Donald George Dowling MTB 606 - And this information: 31st MGB Flotilla Based on Great Yarmouth 30/4/43 MGB 605, MGB 606, MGB 610, MGB 612 and MGB 621 with MTB 624, MTB 630 and MTB 632 depart Great Yarmouth to patrol the northern section of the Dutch coast. MGB 621 is compelled to turn back with an engine defect. MGB 606 and MGB 612 with MTB 624 patrol the outer convoy routes off Vlieland and Terschelling. MGB 605 and MGB 610 with MTB 630 and MTB 632 patrol the inner convoy routes. 0500 Both groups turn for home and shortly afterwards MGB 605 and MGB 610 with MTB 630 and MTB 632 sight four German vessels and close hoping that they will be taken for E Boats. MGB 605 and MGB 610 with MTB 630 and MGB 632 engage with gunfire and severely damage three Flak Lighters. A German account states the force was four boats from 12. Vorposten-Flotilla and. V 1241 / Stangenwalde was sunk Service Record: Norman Ramsey Bruce World Naval Ships Forums Archive
PO Harry Currie D/SSX14577 31st MTB Flotilla Based at Great Yarmouth MGB 630 For an action off the Dutch coast 30/4/43 DSM APOMtrMch Eric Ernest Vincent Bailey P/MX98846 31st MTB Flotilla Based at Great Yarmouth MGB 630 For an action off the Dutch coast 30/4/43 DSM ALSea Cyril Frank Churchill D/JX159195 31st MTB Flotilla Based at Great Yarmouth MGB 630 For an action off the Dutch coast 30/4/43 DSM AB Percy Norman Clark P/JX 348646, MGB 630 killed 1/5/43 aged 19 Son of Frederick William and Alice Clark, of Caergwrle Buried in Hope Cemetery Grave 260 CWGC says HMS Midge AB William Cumming Bolton C/JX362711 31st MTB Flotilla Based at Great Yarmouth MTB 630 Killed in action on Saturday 1 May 1943 Age 19. Son of Andrew and Annie Cumming Bolton, of Maryhill, Glasgow. Buried in Glasgow (Eastwood) Cemetery AB Fred Cuthbert Holmes D/JX302209 55th MTB Flotilla Based at Great Yarmouth MGB 630 For an action off the Dutch coast 30/4/43 DSM Tel Thomas Barrett P/JX172089 31st MTB Flotilla Based at Great Yarmouth MGB 630 For an action off the Dutch coast 30/4/43 DSM Robert Thompson Capelle -
Wow, Thank you so much for all this information, you exceeded my expectations, as I tried so hard to find out online. Many, many thanks, Regards, Mavis
Hello friends, I didn´t find a report of the 12. Vorpostenflottille or the higher command of Sicherungsdivision in my collection. In the Kriegstagebuch der Seekriegsleitung there´s a short account on this action, which states (my transalation): At 0545 o´clock there is a skirmish at Vorpostenposition "Mainz" with enemy fast attack craft. Vorpostenboot 1241 sinks after artillery hits. The other 3 Vorpostenboote recive artillery hits, too. Personal casualties on each vessel. Our Crew database gives these seaman of V 1241 a) as killed on 01.05. or b) died the following days in hospital on Borkum: a) Carstens, Wilhelm StrmMt 10.05.1915 Rendsburg 01.05.1943 bei Terschelling Cuxhaven Kommando "V 1241"+ N.411/35.S. Ewert, Willi MaschMt. 23.02.1916 Hamburg 01.05.1943 off Terschelling, Friesland, Kommando 12.Vp Flot. "V 1241"+ Stangenwalde, sunk in a battle with HMMGB 605, HMMGB 606, HMMGB 610, HMMGB 612, HMMTB 624, HMMTB 630 and HMMTB 632. N.562/39.KT Hamann, Heinz Strm.d.R. 01.04.1908 Altona 01.05.1943 Kommando 11.Vp Flot. "V 1241"+ gefallen NO.10254/40.ES Reinecke, Ernst MaschOGfr. 06.07.1920 Bad Harzburg 01.05.1943 Kommando 12.Vp Flot. auf "V 1241"+ gefallen N.6681/40.T. Rülicke, Otto-Helmut Fähnr.z.S.d.R. 20.07.1923 Leipzig 01.05.1943 Nordsee auf Terschelling, Friesland, Kommando 12.Vp Flot. "V 1241"+ gefallen O.30421/42.K. Wigbels, Bernd MtrGfr. 10.02.1922 Ahaus / Westf. 01.05.1943 Nordsee auf Terschelling, Friesland, Kommando 12.Vp Flot. "V 1241"+ gefallen N.8762/41.KS. Woiwod, Herbert FkOGfr. 09.08.1923 Welper / Westf. 01.05.1943 Nordsee auf Terschelling, Friesland, Kommando 12.Vp Flot. "V 1241"+ gefallen N.2311/41.lT. b) Launert, Alfred Mtr. 31.07.1923 Hörschel / Eisenach 03.05.1943 Laz Borkum Kommando 12.Vp Flot. am 1.5.1943 auf "V 1241". schwer verwundet am 3.5.1943 verstorben N.6109/41.S. - Schmidt, Karl-Heinz MtrGfr. 16.01.1924 Meckenbach 03.05.1943 12.Vp Flot. "V 1241"+ N.2215/41.S. Weber, Kurt MaschOGfr. 22.05.1923 Saarbrücken 03.05.1943 Laz Borkum Kommando 12.Vp Flot. am 1.5.1943 auf "V 1241". schwer verwundet am 3.5.1943 verstorben N.13925/41.T. Wentz, Günther MtrGfr. 14.12.1923 Danzig 03.05.1943 Laz Borkum Kommando 12.Vp Flot. am 1.5.1943 auf "V 1241" verwundet und am 3.5 1943 im Lazarett Borkum verstorben N.13307/41.S. Maybe Michel, Alfred 30.05.1919 01.04.1943 "V 1241"+ is a casualty, too, and 01.04. a typo for 01.05. We´ll check this. Regards Darius
Hi Mavis, I found the other vessels involved in this skirmisch. Translation according to KTB Skl Teil D: Lage Westraum, Nordsee 02.05.1943: Vp 1241 sunk by artillery hits and not by torpedo hit. [...] Addendum to action against enemy fast attack crafts on position "Mainz": Vp 1242 hit in waterline, 14 heavy and 1 slightly wounded. Vp 1246 3 heavy and 1 slightly wounded. Vp 1248 hit in waterline, 4 heavy and 1 slightly wounded.[...] So we still don´t have the numbers for the crew of Vp 1241. Regards Darius
What an excellent website, thank you Itdan. It is so interesting, what a lot of work has been put into it, and a mine of information.
Here the losses on V 1241, which sunk about 06.17: 2 heavy and 3 slightly wounded, 2 dead, 4 missing. Regards Darius