My dads war storys. Chapter One.

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  1. Oldman

    Oldman Very Senior Member

    Gerard
    Thanks for the full story, what became of him after did he stay as a farmer or did he get moved by the Germans to work in their industry (Forced Labour)
     
  2. KGoddard

    KGoddard Junior Member

    Thankyou very much for sharing Gerard
     
  3. gpjeuken

    gpjeuken Member

    Hello, Oldman, and everybody.
    As he married in october 1940, my dad did farming in his new farm as I mentioned
    before, the first two year of the war, the germans are ruling the country normaly.
    But the last two years, rules are more strict, the farmers where very important, and have to produce for germany aid.
    Dad spoke sometimes with the german soldiers how long they where from home, and
    when they expected to go home.(his mothertong is german langauge)see his story.
    Never about politics) Farmers normaly never gone as forced labour.
    Regards, Gerard.
     
  4. martin14

    martin14 Senior Member

    Interesting story, thank you :)
     
  5. gpjeuken

    gpjeuken Member

    Hello,everybody,
    This is not the only story,this is just the first,
    I like to share it with the world, and print it for my grandchildren.
    Becouse of you all are supporting me, my brains are milling and milling.
    All the stories of my dad come back again.
    The chapters, are.................
    The history of the two german rifles my dad kept for
    many years after the war, including lot of bullets.

    What I remember as 5/6 year child about the army things that remains
    around our farm. (1948)

    Evacuation during counterattack germans on 27 oct !(1944)
    Storys : my dad. Peel, Asten / Meijel road. Holland

    How the battelfield looked after three weeks after the fight.


    Now I ask you all,
    Wich story shal I post first ??
    REGARDS: Gerard Jeuken from Holland.
     
  6. gpjeuken

    gpjeuken Member

    Hello,everybody,
    This is not the only story,this is just the first,
    I like to chair it with the world, and print it for my grandchildren.
    Becouse of you all are supporting me, my brains are milling and milling.
    All the storys of my dad com back again.

    The chapters, are.................

    ***The history of the two german rifles my dad kept for
    many years after the war, including lot of bullets.

    ***What I remember as 5/6 year child about the army things that remains
    around our farm. (1948)

    ***Evacuation during counterattack germans on 27 oct !(1944)
    Storys : my dad. Peel, Asten / Meijel road. Holland

    ***How the battelfield looked after three weeks after the fight.

    Dont think, i am creating this storys,
    My dad told this storys again and again, and I asked questions,
    By time he has to ventilate it out.
    it was very exiting for me.
    Now I ask you all,
    Answer me : Wich story shal I post first ??
    REGARDS: Gerard Jeuken from Holland.

    Waiting for your answer.............
     
  7. dbf

    dbf Moderatrix MOD

    Hi Gerard,
    Thank you for continuing to share
    It should be up to you really as I am sure that all of them would be equally as interesting to us, but I would be keen to read the account of Oct 44.

    Regards
    Diane
     
  8. stolpi

    stolpi Well-Known Member

    ..... Evacuation during counterattack germans on 27 oct !(1944) Storys : my dad. Peel, Asten / Meijel road. Holland

    How the battelfield looked after three weeks after the fight .....


    Would be nice to hear something about these subjects.
     
  9. gpjeuken

    gpjeuken Member

    Hello, I m back again.
    The story about evacuation of my family on 27 oct. 1944. becouse of
    the german counterattack.
    Around 24 of september, 1944 the germans where defeated at the bridge to Asten,
    and the villages Ommel and vlierden.
    Both sides many casualties. The german army left the area between the canals.
    Over the canal behind Meijel.
    But on 27 okt they came back with a strong army and counterattacket the peel
    area.
    In the morning of the 27 okt messagers went house to house
    ""Everybody hase to leave immedeatly becouse of the germans are coming back, and here will be battlefield. ""
    Farmers where harvesting the last potatos , and german grenades explodet on there fields .
    My dad told, Immedeatly I put the horse before the cart (with hihgh wooden wheels) and started to load,matrasses, a bag floor wheet, and all important
    things for the coming time. Mother put clothes for everybody also for the 3 small
    children, The food for lunch was ready , but no time to eat.Taken the pans with them. The best cow fixed behind the cart for the milk.
    Two children behind the frontplank on the cart.( me, not yet two, and my elder sister
    of 3 years old.
    Mother has to follow with the babycart with my six months brother.
    Ready to leave.
    But before leaving dad relaised all the farmanimals, cows , pigs and chickens.
    From now they have to search te food themselfs.
    Now to go ten miles to the west, passing Asten over the zuid willemsvaart
    to Lierop, to the monastery of the nuns.
    There to stay till the battle was over,about 3 weeks.
    But every two days, dad was able to visit his farm, before dark ,caring the animals.
    Dad told me what he saw around our house during and after the battle.
    Some of this storys are matching with "Scottish lions on patrol"
    Next time more,
    Regards, Gerard Jeuken. Holland.
     
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  10. stolpi

    stolpi Well-Known Member

    Gerard,

    I'm curious.

    Do you have a map of the area where you lived. Was it save for your father to return to look after the farm. How far did the Germans advance from where the farm was located.
     
  11. gpjeuken

    gpjeuken Member

    Hello, Stolpi,
    Still I am surpriced that father was able to visit his farm to care the animals in the evening, during the fight several times. Sure two times he was there in the battle time ( about one week)
    This I asked my dad...........
    He explaned: One mile before the farm, there was a fir wood, in it a cheqpoint with guards. Dad told: They knew me , but first they have to phone, wether it is safe and sent a guard with him.

    I have some storys more about:
    Dad told always: Once I came home.................................
    ** Not Americans, but Tommies behind my house (scottish)
    ** They slougterd all my chickens.
    ** Two soldiers died in the farmbuilding.
    ** About the 25 pounders guns behind the woods.
    YES, for my research I need a map from my area, where to find???
    MORE QUESTIONS ?? ASK ME. Regards, Gerard Jeuken, Holland
     
  12. gpjeuken

    gpjeuken Member

    Hello,Stolpi and Everybody.
    One answer more, I have read, on the 29 th of october, the german infantery
    came till that ceqpoint, I mentioned, even 200 meters more, acc. my dad.
    Till the farm of Lintermans, The Brittish artillery fire was so stong, that the German infantery stopped.
    The end of that day the German tanks where stopped about two miles direction
    Meijel. (buizerdweg)
    I know the places of the broken tanks beside that road. In the peel.

    Regards: Gerard.
     
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  13. gpjeuken

    gpjeuken Member

    Hello, again,
    Are you still reading this war stories?
    and do you enjoy it ?
    When I write this, I feel the same tension as in the time my
    dad told these to me............

    After evacuation,dad was able to come home evry two days, to care
    his animals.
    One mile before his farm is a fir wood on the right.
    There was a checkpoint, and he has to legitimate. They know him,but
    they have to phone wether it is safe to pass. Possibly, a soldier is sent with him.
    ONCE I CAME HOME..........
    Not Americans, but the tommies where behind my farm. (it was a central point in the Peel)
    15th scottish, there vehickels close to a building together with a camuflagenet
    over it.
    AN OTHER TIME I CAME HOME..........No chickens........
    First I need proof what hase happened, after short time I found the place where they
    had buried the fethers and bawels, also two pigs sloughterd.
    I went to find there superior , and told: I am happy that you come to librate us,
    but that you kill my chickens and pigs, I am not so happy.
    The leader told: Can you imagine, this boys are eating tin food for long time and so
    fed up. They like to eat fresh meat for a change.
    But I will make a deal with you, take your wheelbarrow and come with me to the kitchentruck ...........He filled it it full with all kind of tinfood, and more to carry by hand.
    He asked, NOW OK ?
    Dad told: It was a surprice for me. I hid it on a secret place and after coming
    back, for a long time we have used it.

    The storie of this I found back in the stories on internet: ,,Scottish Lions on Patrol,,
    Chapter 13 sentence 20..........Chickenpluckers and pigshavers professional and all
    hard at work.
    Next time: Two soldiers died from chellfire in my farm.

    Regards Gerard Jeuken. Holland.
     
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  14. gpjeuken

    gpjeuken Member

    ONCE, I CAME HOME........................
    TWO YONG SOLDIERS DIED IN MY FARMHOUSE.'..........

    What hase happened?
    In this central point, more soldiers were there.
    Sometimes German shellfire came down. Two soldiers where sitting on the first floor
    of the stable , close to the open window, they had a perfect sight over the fields
    about half mile far , to the border of the Peel, where the enemy was patroling sometimes...........Suddenly a grenade is fallen trough the tile roof and exploded.
    Some meters from them. One of them, death on the spot.
    The other in critical situation transported to a hospital, but underway died also.
    One I have seen, my father told they have put him on my bed.
    It was a young boy. ( Robinson)
    A Pastor came also, but very late.
    Father told, I was very sad,two yong boys death.
    I tought immedeatly of their parents....

    They are buried in Mierlo war Cementry.
    I researched both, they are Robinson and Appleton

    I found it in afteraction reports of B comp. 10HLI . and memoires of 227th brig. I5 th scottish Div. HLI means, Highland Light Infantry.
    Also involved, the Gordon and Sudherland Highlanders.

    Regards, Gerard Jeuken. Holland.
     
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  15. englandphil

    englandphil Very Senior Member

    Without exact dates, it will be hard to trace the names, so it may be worth while trying to get the war diaries of the Gordons.

    Did find this which may be of interest.

    Asten, a village to the east of Eindhoven in Holland, was the scene of an extraordinary achievement of arms experienced by the 25th Field Regiment Royal, Artillery.

    On the 27th October 1944, units of the 7th US Armored Division (under command of VIII British Corps), were in defensive positions in the vicinity of Asten, when superior German forces counter-attacked from Meijel. Heavily outnumbered, they fought back but casualties were mounting.

    On the 28th October, the 25th Field Regiment were sent to support the American troops, siting their 25 Pdr Field Guns around the hamlet of Heusden. During the next two days, the gunners fought off the German attacks, covering the withdrawal of the infantry. At one point, the enemy were so close that the attack was stopped when German forces were only 300 yards from the Regiment's Observation Post.

    On the 29th October alone, the Regiment fired in excess of 10,000 rounds. At this point additional support arrived in the form of 131 Field Regiment.

    This action is reputed as being "the most celebrated gunner action of 21st Army Group in the whole campaign". The Americans also praised 25th Field Regiment by saying that its fire had been responsible for stopping the German attack on the 28th October

    SOURCE : Asten

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    Holland liberated - 24-09-44 Asten. Sherman tank and infantry of the British 11th Armoured Division crossing the Zuid Willemsvaart on their way to Asten.

    SOURCE : Nederland bevrijd Holland liberated / 24-09-44 Asten-KL.jpg

    Heusden was liberated by the 5th battalion of the Queen's Own Cameron Highlanders from the 51st Highland Division

    Another interesting note

    On 28th December 1944, 'A' and 'C' Squadron, 3rd/4th CLY gave a children's party in the afternoon for the benefit of the young of Asten

    SOURCE : Engagements fought by the 4th Armoured Brigade in 1944
     
  16. englandphil

    englandphil Very Senior Member

    The Action at Asten, 28-30 October 44
    Report rendered by 25th FD Regt., R.A.
    Lt. Col. K. R. Brazier Creagh, R.A., O.C.

    At 1900 hours on 27 Oct 44, orders were received by CO that 25 Fd Regt were to come under command 7th US Armd Div forthwith and to move down at first light the next day to the area of ASTEN. When being briefed by CCRA 8 Corps. the CO was told that on the previous night (26/27 Oct 44) the enemy had thrown bridges across the CANAL DE DEURNE and during the morning of Oct 27 had captured MEIJEL. It was not regarded as a great threat, but merely a diversion with the object of drawing off troops from the operations on the West of the salient which were clearing the Northern bank of the SCHELDT. The instructions were to support 7th US Armd Div who were strung out holding a very wide front, to hit the enemy as hard as possible and assist in putting him back over the canal. There were no restrictions on ammunition expenditure.

    Arrangements were made with HQ 8 ARGA that night for one additional RASC platoon loaded with HE to be sent down to ASTEN the following day. CO left OVERLOON with Z Gp at 0400 hrs 28 Oct and arrived at Hq 7th US Armd Div at 0630 hrs. Excellent arrangements had been chosen for us, SE of ASTEN and survey had been carried to the position. After receiving orders from Col. MARTIN, one of his staff officers guided Z Gp to the posn and the Survey Officer met them there. A message was received saying that the enemy had attacked the American position west of Meijel, one company was overrun and tiger tanks were advancing up the road to ASTEN.

    Battery advance parties had been ordered to rendezvous in ASTEN at 0730 hrs and Gun Groups were due there at 0930 hrs. B Ech and RASC pl were ordered to an area between HELMOND and DEURNE by 0900 hrs. While posn was being reconnoitered by 2IC, CO visited Hq of Combat Command R (CCR) to find CCR had been holding a posn astride the rd ASTEN*MEIJEL, about 692075. with two companys, reserve company being about 68108 (?). This bn was supported by one sqn of tk destroyers (SP A Tk guns) and one bn med tks (Shermans). One recce sqn was watching the left flank. The enemy attack which developed about 0630 hrs had overrun the left fwd company. The rt fwd company was well dug in and holding on. (Note: 28 Oct). It had counted nine tiger tanks moving up the main rd past its posn. These had been engaged by tk destroyers and were stationary on the road in the middle of the bog between the fwd and res companys. They could not get off the road because of the soft ground. The rt company had enemy infantry round it on two sides and tks in front of and behind it, but was holding on well. The situation was, therefore, in hand.

    Major B. D. Napper was sent as rep to Hq CCR and Capt. A. G. Griffiths as FOO with the inf. bn. In addition, Capt. Webb and Capt. A. J. Thrift-Lee were put on the lt and rt flanks respectively to watch the situation.

    The regt was in action in southern half of square 6310 and northern half of square 6339 (?) by 1045 hrs. First and Second line amn had been ordered up previously and dumped their loads by 1130 hrs, and went back to refill. The posn, and all ground in front of it was overlooked by an OP in the church at NEERKANT. This was, therefore, taken on by 31 Bth with HE 119 Cap on. A very effective shoot was done with the aid of an American Air OP and in half an hour the steeple was demolished.

    The day was fine and the Americans had a series of Air OPs constantly in the air, whose spotting was excellent and the infm they sent invaluable. Orders were passed through the rep at Hq CCR.

    By midday it was obvious that the enemy, having been stopped in his dir drive up the rd, was preparing to outflank the American posn on the left. Air OPs saw considerable movement out of MEIJEL towards NEERKANT and into the woods to the West of that village. Targets were engaged continuously during the morning over this area and also along the main rd West of MEIJEL.

    At about 1430 hrs the enemy attack developed, tks and inf adv from the woods of NEERKANT and South of the woods parallel to the rd. The enemy were engaged with a continuous series of “M” targets all over squares 6810 and 6809. For two hours he persisted in his attempts to go fwd and gained between 700 and 1000 yds of ground at the cost of hvy cas to his inf. Several enemy tks were knocked out by the American tk destroyers, but the Sherman bn had also suffered losses and the Sqn of Tk Destroyers were reduced in strength. However the attack was held and enemy showed a strong disinclination to adv in the face of concentrated Arty fire. The Americans paid us the compliment of saying that it was our fire which had broken up the atk. Their own Arty was very short of amn and therefore unable to bring down concentrated Arty fire. It is difficult to state accurately the strength of the enemy, but this atk was made with about 400 inf supported by approx 20 Tigers and Panthers and by arty and mortar fire.

    As darkness fell, the enemy desisted from his attempts to get fwd, and dug in on his newly won grd. FOOs watching the flanks were drawn in, ??? Capt. Griffiths remained with the inf bn and Major Napper with Hq CCR.

    During the early part of the night a gun posn was subjected to heavy shell-fire. One shell landed alongside a gun of B btry and knocked the whole det flat on their backs. Two gunners were wounded and the No 1 temporarily blinded. The gun continued in action with the remainder of the det.

    In order to interfere as much as possible with his preparation for the next day, a large HE program was arranged and fired. It consisted of ??? targets, selected from known enemy posns, roads in and out of MEIJEL and the bridges over the canal. Each target was engaged Scale 3 by each bty three times during the night, a total of 108 rpg. MEIJEL itself received 800 rds. This program involved 80 alternatives to switch and range.

    During the night, report of POW interrogations came in to Hq CCR and US intelligence estimated that we were faced by both 9th Panzer and 15th Panzer Grenadier Divs. Subsequent interrogation has confirmed this estimate as correct.

    CO CC R decided to withdraw the right forward company which had held on so gallantly all day. This was successfully achieved and the co, reduced to about two plats strength, came back and joined the res comp at NW end of the bog.

    Dumping of amn was carried out until late in the evening, each ech including the two RASC pals, going straight back to refill. With continuous dumping and firing there was no time to dig gun pits or any shelter other than slit trenches and nobody in the regt got much sleep.

    In the early morning Major W. A. T. Gethin relieved Major Napper, and Capt. Thrift-Lee relieved Capt. Griffiths. Both these officers ha??? on H net. Capt. R. V. B. Webb was sent out to gain contact with the recce sqn and to watch the left flank, and Major D. F. Oswald was sent out to watch the right flank, where there were no US trps. Both these officers had sets on their bty nets. (Note: 28 October)

    During the night, 131 Fd Regt (15th (S) Div) arrived and came into action East of HEUSDEN. A rep from this regt was sent to Hq 25 Fr Regt, and all day the fire of the 131 Fd Regt was directed by OPs of 25 Fd Regt.

    At about 0730 hrs, 29 Oct, the enemy launched a hvy attack against the left flank of the US posn from the grd he had gained the previous afternoon. The attack was made with about 400 inf and 20 tks supptd by hvy mortar and arty fire. In addition, enemy inf attempted to go round the right flank.

    Hvy fire from both regts was brought down on these attacks, and the inf made little progress, some 4 or 5 Tiger tks reached the rd behind the American fwd posn and inflicted casualties on the Shermans and tk destroyers before they were destroyed or driven off. The battle was fierce and confused for an hour. By 0900 hrs the situation was in hand and there was a pause in the enemy’s attack. When reports came in, however, it was obvious that the posn had deteriorated. Little more than two plats of inf were left and these had withdrawn to ??? 669096 (?). One tk destroyer remained and the Sherman Bn had very few runners left. The recce sqn, somewhat battered, was still watching the left flank. The most serious aspect however, was that the withdrawal had opened both flanks of the American posn. Previously rt flank had been protected against tk attack by the marshy grd. Moreover there were no US tps further south than the two plats on the crossroads so that the gun posns of the 25 Fd Regt were open to attack by the enemy who were some 2,800 yards away.

    By the time this attack had been halted, 131 Fd Regt, who had only come up with their first line amn, were down to 20 rpg. Fifty rpg was therefore sent across to them from 25 Fd Regt and one of the two RASC plats at the disposal of 25 Fd Regt was instructed to dump for the 131 ???

    At 0800 hrs, infom had been received from 7th US Armd Div that enemy had captured LEISEL, but no news could be obtained of what US dispositions were in this area.

    At 1000 hrs, CRA 15 (S) Div rang up CO. He asked if we were alright, whether it was safe for us to remain where we were as he had heard rumors that the enemy had broken thru and 25 Fd Regt had been overrun. The situation was explained to him. It was also explained that there was no question of withdrawal. To do so would have deprived????????????????????????????????

    critical stage of the battle. Moreover, the gun posn was under shell fire and it was extremely doubtful if the guns could have been got at even if this had been justifiable. The enemy showed great caution in adv against concentrated shellfire and provided we did not run out of amn, CO considered that the posn could be held. The only anxiety was that the enemy at LEISEL should adv and capture ASTEN behind us. CRA said this rd had been sealed off. He told CO that 227 Inf Bde (15 (S) Div) were on their way up and should be arriving about 1800 hrs and posn must be held until nightfall.

    As soon as CRA had rung off, 12/25 Bty rang RHQ to say that an American had told one of the tk lookouts that enemy tks including Tigers were adv on the gun posn behind wood at 645095 (?). 12/25 Bty and 31 Bty (the fwd btys) were ordered to “tk alert” and the scale of fire was trebled on 38 Bty to keep up the rate of fire.

    About this time stragglers and walking wounded in considerable numbers started to appear on the gun posns with the most alarming stories of what was happening up front. A quick visit to all gun posns, however, disclosed that this producing no effect there. In spite of the shelling, everyone was very cheerful and busy and had neither the time nor inclination to listen to alarmist rumors. Every available man was collected and put into posn to repel inf atks on the guns if the need arose, and HE with fuze 222 set to burst close in was prepared against the same eventuality. An officers patrol was sent out to verify the tk story and returned to say no tks were visible. Tk alert was therefore removed.

    CO visited bn hq and fwd coy to tell them that 227 Inf Bde was on its way up and that at all costs they must hold on until nightfall, assuring them that the maximum rate of fire would be maintained.

    All OPs and reps were instructed to keep up the maximum rate of fire on the enemy, and “B” ech and RASC were ordered to dump as fast as possible.

    During the rest of the day firing was continuous. Never less than four shoots were in progress simultaneously and frequently five, all of them conducted through the comns of the 25 Fd Regt. The FOOs on the flanks were given priority on a tp each and told to come on the enemy’s flank and prevent him from carrying out an encircling movement. On the “H” net two tgts were always being engaged simultaneously, one by the remaining two btys of 25 Fd Regt and one by the 131 Fd Regt through the rep. In addition occasional destructive shoots with one gun were carried out with the aid of Air OP through US 7th Armd Div Fire Control Centre. Comns never failed throughout the day. 25 Fd Regt engaged 76 tgts and fired 10,000 rds of amn, 131 Fd Regt through OPs of 25 Fd Regt engaged 27 tgts and fired 5,430 rds. of amn.

    Throughout the morning until midday, the enemy made persistent efforts to get fwd but they were all frustrated.

    About 1430 hrs, Comd 227 Inf Bde arrived Hq CCR and a conference was held. He said his leading bns would arrive by last night and would take up posns astride the rd about 652099. They could not be dug in and prepared until 0200 hrs 30 Oct. Comd CCR agreed to hold on, altho his tps were very tired and depleted, until 0200 hrs provided that Arty could keep up the present rate of fire. This was guaranteed.

    At about 1500 hrs the enemy made his final effort of the day. This took the form of another attempt to outflank the left of the American posn moving rather wider than before. He adv with some 400 inf and 20 tks.

    By this time there was practically nothing left of the recce sqn on the left flank. Capt. Webb saw this atk developing and engaged with fire. Although completely isolated, he remained in his OP directing fire until he brought the attack to a halt some 300 yds from him. By this time he and his operator L/Bdr Grundy were surrounded on three sides. He continued to direct the fire on the enemy for 4 hrs until darkness fell and then he withdrew.

    At the same time this atk was also being engaged by 131 Fd Regt and after about two hrs of persistent effort the enemy gave up. Once again his tps had been unable to adv in the face of concentrated arty fire.

    When darkness fell, the battle died down. 227 Inf Bde arrived and 4 HLI on rt and 2 Gordons on lt tool up their posns. At 2230 hrs the CO telephoned CRA 15 (S) Div for permission to withdraw to previously reconnoitered and prepared alternative positions, as res coy areas of HLI were amongst the tp posns of the 12/25 bty. He was only just through and had not received permission when shells landed on RHQ cutting all line comns. Fortunately the wireless remained through and permission was obtained. At 0200 hrs the tired and depleted American coy withdrew through the Scottisch posn after a very gallant stand for fifteen hrs against overwhelming odds.

    The posn was now strongly hel. 15 (S) Div Arty in action and at 0230 hrs 25 Fd Regt withdrew to their alternative posns.

    The cas suffered on this action were astonishingly light in view of the fact that the gun posns were shelled all day on 29 Oct. 11 men were wounded and nobody was killed. One gun received a direct hit which damaged the trail; three other guns received damage from shellfire. One 105 shell landed beside one gun but failed to explode. Most of the few vehs on the posn were damaged.

    SOURCE : 7th Armored Division Document Repository - World War II Documents of and related to U. S. 7th Armored Division
     
  17. englandphil

    englandphil Very Senior Member

    Gerard, I assume this is the list of 10 casualties.

    001 , ANDERSON, J, 2562490, 2ND BN , 31/10/1944, GORDON HIGHLANDERS
    002 , CHELL, A, 5047772, 2ND BN , 01/11/1944, GORDON HIGHLANDERS
    003 , CLARK, LN, 14497899, 2ND BN , 01/11/1944, GORDON HIGHLANDERS
    004 , DEVOY, TW, 3458524, 2ND BN , 30/10/1944, GORDON HIGHLANDERS
    005 , GRIFFITHS, F, 284463, 2ND BN , 01/11/1944, GORDON HIGHLANDERS
    006 , HIGSON, R, 14420535, 2ND BN , 30/10/1944, GORDON HIGHLANDERS
    007 , HORNBY, E, 14583448, 2ND BN , 04/11/1944, GORDON HIGHLANDERS
    008 , MACEACHEN, RA, 14709230, 2ND BN , 30/09/1944, GORDON HIGHLANDERS
    009 , MCGRATH, M, 14440206, 2ND BN , 30/10/1944, GORDON HIGHLANDERS
    010 , TURNER, A, 14587413, 2ND BN , 30/10/1944, GORDON HIGHLANDERS
     
  18. gpjeuken

    gpjeuken Member

    Yes, Englandphil,
    This boys are on my list,
    But also Sudherland Highlanders.!!!!!!!!!
    How can I know, exact place and couse of death.?
    Also I need a map of this battlefield.
    I know there every field and corner, by reading the reports I can understand
    the places they fought.
    Gerard.
     
  19. 51highland

    51highland Very Senior Member

  20. 51highland

    51highland Very Senior Member

    The Heusden mentioned in post#35 is a different Heusden to the one liberated by 5th Camerons.
     

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