Pompey Dockyard

Discussion in 'WW2 Museums. Events, & places to see.' started by von Poop, Mar 11, 2011.

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  1. von Poop

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    von Poop, Mar 11, 2011
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  2. nicks

    nicks Very Senior Member

    but Warrior alone is worth the normal price of admission.

    ~A

    Adam, I agree with you - well worth a visit.
     

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  3. Medic7922

    Medic7922 Senior Member

    I took a workmate down to Pompey Dockyard and the D Day museum last year we could have done with more then a whole weekend, I used to live in Portsmouth and forgot how much there was to see, We did not even get to the RM museum or go over the Warrior.
     
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  4. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    I see that Normal Dockyard/Ship Tickets are valid for a year.
    Wonder if it'd be worth locals popping in to get a cheap ticket this weekend, and then revisiting at leisure?
    Dunno if they've curtailed that possibility, but could be worth a phone call to confirm...
    I used to live in Portsmouth and forgot how much there was to see
    Ditto.
    Grimmish town sometimes, but absolutely littered with worthwhile nuggets of History. From the bigger museums like Fort Nelson, D-Day, Marines, or HMS Alliance just across the water, to a stroll beside the Solent from Southsea to Old Pompey and it's mass of memorials, plaques, and old fortifications.

    If anyone thinks they may not find a C19th Ironclad that interesting; I'm pretty sure Warrior will cure most of that misapprehension.
    HMS Warrior | History

    I feel like some sort of Pompey tourism officer. How queer. :unsure:
     
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  5. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    Pottered down on Monday.
    Few shots.

    Victory.
    Really nice tour (last time I went was a bit 'thin'), and we went into the hold, which I'd not seen before. Lots of restoration being done on the old dear, which explains the rather truncated masts (tops laid up in a nearby shed), but it was nice to see a bit more of her superstructure.

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    Still find myself fascinated by Warrior's weapon racks...
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  6. Mike L

    Mike L Very Senior Member

    Great pictures Adam.
    I have been to Portsmouth many times for work and en route to Normandy - even had a Great Uncle living there until a few years ago but I have not had a chance to visit the many attractions. Always fancied the Submarine Museum.
    Always something a bit stirring seeing Victory and Warrior from the ferry (Normandy Ferries - wonder what the crew thought about Victory?).
     
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  7. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    Nice pics mate - Did you take any of the Foudroyant (sp)? I'm assuming she is still there?
     
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  8. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    Not sure where Foudroyant is now mate, have a feeling she went up North to where Warrior was restored fairly recently. Maybe even renamed?

    Ah, here we go:
    the Trust decided to restore her to her original condition and return to her former name of HMS Trincomalee. She was taken to Hartlepool, where the HMS Warrior 1860 had been restored. The restoration has recently been completed and she is now on display in Jackson Dock, Hartlepool as HMS Trincomalee. She is the oldest floating British frigate and the second oldest floating ship in the world.
    HMS Foudroyant and HMS Trincomalee | Online Information Bank | Research Collections | Royal Naval Museum at Portsmouth Historic Dockyard

    Mike, Alliance (The Sub at Gosport) is a brilliant visit, though I've a sneaking suspicion she might be closed at the mo, as restoration money was recently secured, and she's in a bit of a state. May be wrong, but If so I'd advise waiting until all is accessible again - one of the better tours I've been on.

    Agree with the 'stirring' thing. Victory makes me come over 'a bit funny' whenever I'm up close. Standing there next to the 'Nelson fell here' plaque, while they talk about large parts of the top deck being 'carried away' during the fighting at Trafalgar I can never get Parry's Jerusalem out of my head, closely followed by Hearts of Oak... :unsure:

    Oh, and the Victory Sail is now on permanent display.
    A tad limited viewpoint because of understandable conservation issues, but blimey, what a 'national' artefact...
     
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  9. Mike L

    Mike L Very Senior Member

    Cheers for that Adam - will put off a visit for a while (might have a few more quid to spare then).
    If I ever see a proposal to let Victory rot I will up sticks and move away. Won't matter where, as England would have lost all respect for our history. I really can't think of anything else that represents England's history better (even if she can't float again) and it is still a Commissioned vessel.
     
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  10. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    Cheers mate - Happy memories of being forced by my dad to spend two weeks on her when I was a child, sleeping in hammocks and learning seamanship rubbish like sailing and making knots in the hope I would join the Navy when I was older. That hope was dashed when I joined the Army Cadets at 13 and learnt how to smoke and swear!
     
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  11. RCG

    RCG Senior Member, Deceased

    Don't forget to have a tot today.

    21st October 1805 Battle of Trafalgar.
     
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  13. Ron Goldstein

    Ron Goldstein WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    Sorry, but couldn't resist telling you the only joke I know about the Pompey Dockyard.

    During the war a certain matelot used to push a wheelbarrow daily past a police sentry box that was stationed to the main dockyard entrance.

    The PC on duty used to inspect the wheelbarrow for any contraband but was never able to find any unauthorised material.

    Many years after the war the two men happened to meet in a pub and the ex-PC was delighted at the chance to ask a leading question.

    "Now come on" he said " I know you were pinching something, but what the bloody hell was it ?"

    "Just wheelbarrows" said the matelot

    Ron
     
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  14. Medic7922

    Medic7922 Senior Member

    I knew and old Pompey Docker who done a lot marquetry work on the Royal Yacht Britannia, and Officers messes in Pompey who Sadly passed away to Davy Jones Locker only recently.
    One of his scams and he made a lot of money was to Re-Distrubute the Brass Telescopes and Brass compass covers complete with compass and crows foot stamped on them :D and more then one brass diving helmet to collectors of Ships memorabilia, How he got them passed the Dockyard Police was a mystery he took to his grave.
     
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  15. 52nd Airborne

    52nd Airborne Green Jacket Brat

    Mike, Alliance (The Sub at Gosport) is a brilliant visit, though I've a sneaking suspicion she might be closed at the mo, as restoration money was recently secured, and she's in a bit of a state. May be wrong, but If so I'd advise waiting until all is accessible again - one of the better tours I've been on.

    Access is still available, I was on her a few weeks ago, before attending a talk by Vice Admiral Sir Tim McClement (HMS Conqueror's 2 I.C. during the Falksland conflict).
     
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  16. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    Glad to hear it, 52nd. And I'm guessing the Conqueror talk was rather good?

    On the Dockyard's ships (Mary rose was closed while they build a new shed around her... might have been nice if they'd told us that - Princess Anne whizzing by to open something also meant the main museum was shut, mutter mutter), we thought, that what's really needed there is another large warship, but from the early C20th.

    Moving on 100 years in Naval technology from Victory to Warrior was absolutely fascinating. Real progression in so many ways, though it's perhaps most interesting how the fighting layout is broadly similar, just not so cramped, in the later Ship.
    Would have been splendid to then move onto a WW1 or WW2 ship to see the next big shift in tech.
    So if anyone has a spare Destroyer or Battleship knocking about, get it over to Pompey :unsure:.

    (There is apparently a little WW1 Monitor there, but we missed it :blush:, think it may have been parked where the royal security screen and a mob of armed coppers sort of discouraged us looking. File:HMS Monitor M33 - 4 April 2010 at Portsmouth Naval Dockyard.JPG - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)
     
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  17. 52nd Airborne

    52nd Airborne Green Jacket Brat

    Glad to hear it, 52nd. And I'm guessing the Conqueror talk was rather good?

    Very much so!!........... It was bit an eye opener to hear a first hand account of all the problems the crew and Sub faced during their deployment to the South Atlantic.
     
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  18. Drew5233

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