Posen - Stalag XX1D

Discussion in 'Prisoners of War' started by Sue Nash, Nov 30, 2011.

  1. Sue Nash

    Sue Nash Junior Member

    Hi
    I am trying to find out more about my Dad's time in Posen. He sadly died in 1982 but we have quite a lot of his bits and pieces including a small book that he kept whilst he was in the camp. He listed all his received and sent mail, his weight during his 4-5 years there, details of clothing and various song lyrics and names and addresses. There is also a list of all the places he went through on the Long March.
    I would be very pleased to hear from anyone who has any details of the camp or of anyone else who was in there.:poppy:
     
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  2. wtid45

    wtid45 Very Senior Member

  3. Kbak

    Kbak Senior Member

    Welcome Sue

    regards

    Keith
     
  4. dbf

    dbf Moderatrix MOD

    Sue there are a number of files held at Kew which might be of interest... some are more general in nature than others.

    WO 224/51 Stalag XXID Posen 1941 Aug. - 1944 Oct.
    WO 361/1821 Prisoners of war, Germany: Stalag XXID Posen (Poznan), Poland; reports by the International Red Cross 1942 Jan 01 - 1944 Dec 31
    WO 309/1067 Stalag 21D, Posen, Poland: killing of British POW 1946 Sept - 1947 Nov
    WO 309/1859 Ill-treatment of British prisoners of war at Stalag XXI D, Posen (Poznan), Poland, 1942-1944 1946 Mar 01 - 1947 Jun 30
    WO 309/1952 Shooting of Sapper Alexander (prisoner of war) at Stalag XXI D, Posen, Poland, May 1942 1945 Jun 01 - 1945 Jun 30
    WO 309/2135 Shooting of Fusilier Rigby and wounding of other prisoners of war, Stalag XXI D, Posen, Poland, 16 April 1944 1945 May 01 - 1947 Apr 30
    WO 311/153 Stalag 21D, Posen, Poland: killing of British POW 1945 June - 1946 Feb
    WO 311/162 Stalag 21D, Posen, Poland: killing and ill-treatment of British POWs 1944 May-1947 Apr
    WO 311/948 Shooting of two escaping British prisoners of war at Working Camp 4 (making a rifle range), Ostrowo, Poland (attached to Stalag XXI D, Posen), 15 July 1943 1943 Aug 01 - 1946 Feb 28
    WO 311/964 Murder of Sapper Alexander at Stalag XXI D, Posen, Poland, 12 May 1942 1944 Feb 01 - 1946 Nov 30
    WO 311/1067 Alleged ill-treatment of prisoners of war at Fort Rauch, Stalag XXI D, Posen, Poland, April to October 1941 1946 Feb 01 - 1946 Mar 31
    WO 311/1146 Ill-treatment (and stealing of Red Cross parcels) of British prisoners of war at Stalag XXI D, Posen, Poland, 1940-1945 1945 Oct 01 - 1946 Feb 28

    TS 26/399 Posen: murder, massacre and systematic terrorism 1939-1945
    TS 26/484 Posen: murder of Fusilier V Rigby and assault on others 1939-1945
    TS 26/545 Posen: wounding of Corporal Grimes and beating of others 1939-1945
     
  5. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    Hi Sue and welcome to the forum.

    Whats his name and what unit was he serving with when he was captured?
     
  6. Hammer66

    Hammer66 Junior Member

    Hi Sue,
    My Father served time in Stalag 21D. I have a photo mailed to him there, it is stamped on the back with the Stalag 21D stamp. I know he also spent time in Stalag 21A and have some photos of pows taken there. My father was L/Cpl Sidney Purkis # 3818 and he was captured in late May 1940.
     
  7. lookingforanswers

    lookingforanswers Junior Member

    Hi Hammer66,

    I've just read your post and wondered if you had any photo's from either of the camps that your father was held in.
    My grandfather (British soldier) was a POW in both camps and I am looking for any images of him that may exist from his time in there.
     
  8. Lizzie M

    Lizzie M Junior Member

    Hi
    Like the other member Sue, my Dad was also in Stalag XX1 D but unlike the other photos I've seen, my Dad's group photo was taken on a grassed area with trees behind. My Dad died in 1974 and rarely spoke of his time as a POW. All I know is that he was captured at Dunkirk and was a POW until 1945. He was in the Royal Scots (or Scots Greys?) and was a soldier prior to the war when he was based in India for 5 years then Egypt for 2 years. I'd love it if someone can tell me where I should go for further info.
    Many thanks, Lizzie M
     
  9. jacksun

    jacksun Senior Member

    Hi Lizzie, if you post some more details (Name, soldier number etc) we may be able to give you some more info.
    The following link has info on researching a soldier from WW2 which should be of some help.

    http://www.ww2talk.com/forum/searching-someone-military-genealogy/47584-ww2-soldier-research-tips-links-new-researchers.html

    Wayne

    Hi
    Like the other member Sue, my Dad was also in Stalag XX1 D but unlike the other photos I've seen, my Dad's group photo was taken on a grassed area with trees behind. My Dad died in 1974 and rarely spoke of his time as a POW. All I know is that he was captured at Dunkirk and was a POW until 1945. He was in the Royal Scots (or Scots Greys?) and was a soldier prior to the war when he was based in India for 5 years then Egypt for 2 years. I'd love it if someone can tell me where I should go for further info.
    Many thanks, Lizzie M
     
  10. baldie42

    baldie42 Junior Member

    hi

    my grandfather l/cpl james patrick ryan 6288904 rifleman 5th batt buffs

    was captured in doullens 22/5/40.

    i have his service records which tell me where he joined & where he was captured,but i dont have any info about his movements in the month leading up to his capture in france & then held at stalag xx1 d poznan.

    i would be interested in any info on websites,books etc regarding my grandfather & anybody who served with him.


    cheers...mark
     
  11. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    UK, British Prisoners of War, 1939-1945 about J P Ryan
    Name: J P Ryan
    Rank: Lance Corporal
    Army Number: 6288904
    Regiment: The Buffs
    POW Number: 2776
    Camp Type: Stalag
    Camp Number: VIII-C
    Camp Location: Konin Zaganski, Poland
    Record Office: Infantry and Army Physical Training Corps Record Office, Stanwell Road School, Ashford, Middlesex
    Record Office Number: 23

    TD
     
  12. baldie42

    baldie42 Junior Member

    cheers tricky dicky

    looking through my grandfathers papers they have xx10 listed twice,v111b,v111c listed on one page with no info.
     
  13. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    I have found that sometimes they are shown as being in the 'main camp' but where often in satellite camps for work parties, so I would assume from the earlier details his main camp would have been VIII-C

    TD

    edited to add:
    Link to VIII- ? camps etc - http://www.muzeum.eline2.serwery.pl/index.php?id=21&lng=eng

    BBC WW2 Peoples War - http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/ww2peopleswar/stories/94/a6953394.shtml

    There are also quite a number of photos https://www.google.fr/search?q=Stalag+Camp+Number:+VIII-C&es_sm=122&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=CTOTU_zRIMuT0AX1nIG4Cg&ved=0CDQQsAQ&biw=1132&bih=590
     
  14. baldie42

    baldie42 Junior Member

    cheers tricky

    im going out shortly.i will definately read those asap.a quick scan they look very interesting.

    mark
     
  15. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    Start a thread in the 1940 section - I'll be able to answer your Qs up to his capture.
     
  16. moonrakers

    moonrakers New Member

    hi my dad was a private in the surry regt the whole regt was capt or killed at ameins may 1940 part of the 12 div he ended up in fort rauch poznan
    cheers dave
     
  17. morrisc8

    morrisc8 Under the Bed

    British pow Stalag XX1D photo with Sgt on roll call  .jpg British pow Stalag XX1D photo William Bill Plant card jpg.jpg British pow Stalag XX1B photo William Bill Plant.jpg British pow Stalag XX1B.jpg British pow Stalag XX1D photo group Fort .jpg stalag XXID pow camp mark.jpg stalag XXIB pow camp.jpg Just bought some photos of British pows in Stalag XXID and XXIB sent from Fusilier William [Bill] Plant camp number 1052, i am trying to find out when he was captured in 1940. Possibly Lancashire Fusiler
    Camp stamp mark on back of photos.
     
    Last edited: Mar 2, 2021
  18. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    Just for info:

    Name: W Plant
    Rank: Fusilier
    Army Number: 3451803
    Regiment: Lancashire Fusiliers
    POW Number: 1052
    Camp Type: Stalag
    Camp Number: 344
    Camp Location: Lambinowice, Poland
    Record Office: Infantry Record Office, The Public Hall, Lune Street, Preston, Lancashire
    Record Office Number: 18

    TD
     
  19. morrisc8

    morrisc8 Under the Bed

    Thanks for the info TD and the help on the other items that i have listed on the forums. :)
    Keith
     
  20. morrisc8

    morrisc8 Under the Bed

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