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Reserved Occupation of Bricklayer in 1942?

Discussion in 'General' started by Welshbob, Sep 18, 2024.

  1. Welshbob

    Welshbob Member

    I am looking into a relative who enlisted in the army in April 1942, his service record states he was a bricklayer on enlisting. On the 1939 schedule of reserved occupations, I see that a bricklayer was reserved: - Bricklayer, building (general hand) on page 8.

    I know changes were made in December 1941, that The National Service (No, 2) Act came into force, declaring that all persons of either sex for the time being in Great Britain were liable to undertake some form of national service, and the 1939 reserved occupations schedule was abandoned. I have found the Ministry of Labour Gazette from December 1941 which states: -

    Heading: Reservation by Occupations to be replaced by a system of Individual Deferments

    It has been decided that the system of block reservation under the Schedule of Reserved Occupations must in general be replaced gradually by a system of individual deferments under which each individual case will come under review. This transition will be effected by raising the age of reservation, as shown in the December1941 revise of the Schedule of Reserved Occupations by one year steps at monthly intervals beginning at 1st January. Where necessary, men below the ages of reservation for their occupations, including men who have ceased to be reserved as a result of the monthly raising of ages of reservation, will be retained in industry by means of individual deferment of their calling-up. The arrangement for progressive de-reservation will not apply to merchant seamen, full-time members of the Royal Observer Corps, reserved occupations in Civil Defence students, lay evangelists, veterinary surgeons, and occupations covered by special schemes of deferment dealing with men in agriculture, the Civil Service and allied Services, building and civil engineering, and coalmining.

    My questions are: -

    Was a bricklayer removed as a reserved occupation early in 1942?
    Or was an age limit applied as part of the staged changes and if so, what was it? I see from the 1939 schedule there was no age stated.
    Was it possible for him as a bricklayer to enlist anyway regardless?

    Any thoughts anyone?

    Thanks
     
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  2. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

    From a thread below posted by another member

    Don't know about carpenters, but my grandfather was a builder (bricklayer) by trade.

    I know that he had to complete his apprenticeship before he could join up - this meant he didn't join up until the age of 21. He went into the Royal Engineers, which at least meant that they could make use of his skills.
    Reserved Occupations
     
  3. Welshbob

    Welshbob Member

    Mine didn't use his trade in the war, he joined the medical core. I think he completed his apprenticeship first.
     
  4. Buteman

    Buteman 336/102 LAA Regiment (7 Lincolns), RA Patron

    My Dad was a slater and tiler pre war and was in a reserved occupation. Conscripted in July 1940.

    His unit destroyed two churches (Bofors) being used as German OPs. Post war, he retiled a church steeple in Dulwich.

    I visited the restored churches in 2015. I gave a copy of the unit war for their records. I was given a slate tile as a gift.
     
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  5. Uncle Target

    Uncle Target Mist over Dartmoor

    Bick layers and builders were required in several Regiments and Corps including the Royal Artillery.

    Builders and Bricklayers 67FR RA TA.jpg
    Bricklayers and Builders
    67th Field Regt RA TA on joining the BEF 1st Infantry Division January 1940.

    Pictures below: Various types of 25 pounder gun pits 67th FR (Mennell Family Collection)
     

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    Last edited: Sep 18, 2024
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  6. Roy Martin

    Roy Martin Senior Member

    My father was a carpenter and joiner. When he joined up he assumed that he would be in the REs. However he was told that they had enough chippies so he had to be a dispatch rider, which he resented. His records show that he was paid a trade allowance! He got his transfer in Italy in 1943 and was happy.
     
  7. Welshbob

    Welshbob Member

    Did he enlist post Dec 1941 when he would have been assessed? I believe before that it was a blanket RE for groups listed.
     
  8. Roy Martin

    Roy Martin Senior Member

    No he enlisted on 11 March 1940, his birthday. He spent the next two and a half years earning a stripe, or sometimes two and then losing them again, basically for being arsey I think. He wasn't long in the REs before he got three stripes, and kept them!
     
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  9. Welshbob

    Welshbob Member


    Thanks that's is interesting to knew.
     

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