Sgt Philip Ryding 7585591 RAOC help with information

Discussion in 'REME/RAOC' started by Starbelly, Mar 18, 2016.

  1. Starbelly

    Starbelly Member

    Hello
    I hope this is the right place to post.
    My grandad was in the RAOC when he was sent to France with the BEF in September 1939. He must have been based in or around Arras as my dad is in possession of a hand drawn map of the town that my grandad drew. But I am after any more precise info on what he was doing in France. According to his service records he was attached to GHQ 2nd echelon. He was sadly killed by an aerial bombardment on the 21st May 1940 so his time there was brief.
    Does anyone know any info that I can gain. I think I can get the war diary relating to that unit, but does anyone know of any info I can get from Arras itself. We are planning a surprise trip for my dads 80th birthday to Arras and then Tingry where my grandad is buried and I am just trying to get as much info as possible before we go.

    Any information appreciated.
     
  2. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    Hi Starbelly

    Do you have his service records?? - if not then link is here https://www.gov.uk/guidance/requests-for-personal-data-and-service-records#how-to-apply-for-service-personnel-records

    Also from Ancestry records:
    Name: Philip Ryding
    Given Initials: P
    Rank: Serjeant
    Death Date: 21 May 1940
    Number: 7585591
    Birth Place: Manchester
    Residence: Manchester
    Branch at Enlistment: Other Corps
    Theatre of War: France and Belgium Campaign, 1939/40
    Regiment at Death: Royal Army Ordnance Corps
    Branch at Death: Other Corps


    Philip Patrick Ryding in the UK, Commonwealth War Graves, 1914-1921 and 1939-1947

    Name: Philip Patrick Ryding
    Age: 28
    Birth Date: abt 1912
    Death Date: 21 May 1940
    Cemetery: Tingry Churchyard
    Burial Country: France
    Father: Marshall Philip Ryding
    Mother: Sarah Ryding
    Regimental Number: 7585591
    Region or Memorial: France

    I will also sens Drew (our resident BEF expert) a PM and alert him to your thread

    TD

    edited to add:
    CWGC details - note that he is the only WW2 soldier buried at this cemetery


    RYDING, PHILIP PATRICK

    Rank:Serjeant
    Service No:7585591
    Date of Death:21/05/1940
    Age:28
    Regiment/Service:Royal Army Ordnance Corps
    Grave Reference: Cemetery:TINGRY CHURCHYARD
    Additional Information:Son of Marshall Philip and Sarah Ryding; husband of Edith Hannah Ryding, of Didcot, Berkshire.
     
  3. Starbelly

    Starbelly Member

    Thanks for the info Tricky Dicky.

    I have his service records and we visited the grave about six years ago. The missing element for me is any detail ( if there is) of what he did while in France. I believe the next logical move would be the war diary for his unit.
    Just trying to cover all avenues of enquiry before we go to France.

    Thanks again, I look forward to anything Drew might add :)
     
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  4. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    It might be worth uploading the section of his service record covering his time in France - just so that we can all see the actual details of his record which will help in focussing into the right area faster, rather than having to make assumptions

    TD
     
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  5. Starbelly

    Starbelly Member

    Okay I will sort that out.
    Thanks
     
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    Starbelly Member

  7. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    The attached is only stating what his ranks were and when - nothing more, have you his service record stating what regiment he was with and when etc??

    TD
     

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