Spot the error ?

Discussion in 'Modelling' started by Capt Bill, Oct 25, 2008.

  1. Capt Bill

    Capt Bill wanderin off at a tangent

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  2. Rich Payne

    Rich Payne Rivet Counter Patron 1940 Obsessive

    It is a little known fact that due to shortages of wireless equipment, they sent in Signals linemen to set up a telephone network. Unfortunately, many of them were ex-Post Office Telephones and brought much civilian pattern gear with them.

    Furthermore, one of the concerns in occupied Holland was lack of postal communications so a letter box was standard equipment !
     
  3. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    I'm sure it was them who asked me directions when I was emptying a postbox the other day.
    :)
     
  4. Capt Bill

    Capt Bill wanderin off at a tangent

    It is a little known fact that due to shortages of wireless equipment, they sent in Signals linemen to set up a telephone network. Unfortunately, many of them were ex-Post Office Telephones and brought much civilian pattern gear with them.

    Furthermore, one of the concerns in occupied Holland was lack of postal communications so a letter box was standard equipment !

    yeah, but Im sure they didnt drop Red GPO phone boxes by containers during Op MARKET GARDEN:confused:
     
  5. Paul Reed

    Paul Reed Ubique

    I also doubt Dutch civvies walked the streets with shotguns, especially in 1944.
     
  6. deadb_tch

    deadb_tch the deadliest b#tch ever

    Have read the comments and giggling all the time :) although I am not the british I catched up the joke :D

    EDIT: wow, 900th post, loooook uuuuuup, I'm coming :D

    Paul, looks like they stopped some dutch hunter in forests of holland :D and its obvious that the forest is already filled with all standard WW2 british comminication equipment :D
     
  7. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    It is a little known fact that due to shortages of wireless equipment, they sent in Signals linemen to set up a telephone network. Unfortunately, many of them were ex-Post Office Telephones and brought much civilian pattern gear with them.

    Furthermore, one of the concerns in occupied Holland was lack of postal communications so a letter box was standard equipment !
    Tommy-rot!
    Anyone can see that this illustration depicts the liberation of the world famous Dutch Public Telephone & Post box collection, as pictured in the 'After the Battle' publication 'Boxes & bren-Guns'.
    The chap with the rabbits is quite plainly Colonel Lord 'Guffy' Henderson, who despite many fine military achievements was obsessed with game shooting, and always, somewhat eccentrically, wore the garb of a Tyrolean hunter whenever on active service.
    In this vignette he is clearly annoyed that his men have damaged a particularly rare Chinese 'Type 7' box that he was hoping to take home for his wife; Lady Henderson being a noted collector and personally responsible for discovering 14 unknown types of box during her younger travels in Eastern climes.
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    Either that, or they're training in the Cotswolds...
     
  8. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Second from left is most dangerous item in WW2, an Officer with a map.

    I expect he's also thinking, "If I now point with my left hand, I'll look just like the officer in the Airfix 1/32nd scale British Paras set."

    I think the civie is saying, " A phone box? ah, nearest one is two miles that way!"
     
  9. Rich Payne

    Rich Payne Rivet Counter Patron 1940 Obsessive

    yeah, but Im sure they didnt drop Red GPO phone boxes by containers during Op MARKET GARDEN:confused:

    Now that would've kept Jerry's head down :)

    I don't believe that the shooter is an Englishman and he's certainly not a gentleman. Only Johnny Foreigner caries a shotgun on a sling (If it's not a shotgun, he's using an elephant gun on rabbit which wouldn't leave much over for the pot !)

    I half wonderd if it was a training exercise in England designed to help spot fifth columnists - note the feldgrau trousers.

    Maybe the correct caption is "Excuse me sir, we've missed our flight to Eindhoven - Can you tell us the way to Croydon Aerodrome ?":rolleyes:
     
  10. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    I think the postbox is a George 5th Lampbox style.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lamp_box


    George V
    • LB206- Believed to be cast until about 1927, the original GR Lamp box had a crown above a small GR cipher.
    • LB207-LB210 - The crown was removed and a larger GR cipher was used. While the box is 1/2 inch wider the aperture remains the same at 4 3/4 inches by 1 inch. Subtle differences in the makers name, cipher and door length distinguish between the different types.
    • LB211 GvR 1935 Pattern -In response to criticism of the narrow aperture of the original Lamp box a larger model was cast with the aperture enlarged to 5 1/2 inches by 1 inch. This type of Lamp box was in use from 1935 to 1949 when it was replaced with the modern 1940's pattern.
    Here we go....

    http://www.cvphm.org/GeorgeVPt2.html

    These four boxes are all by different foundries from this long reign. The rounded top leads to this type being know has "Hovis" boxes, after the famous loaves of bread. The boxes in this selection are:
    • LB206 A.Handyside with long door & small crown
    • LB210W T Allen - short door
    • LB209/2 Derby Castings - short door
    • LB207 A.Handyside with no crown & long door
    We also have an LB208, W T Allen long door which is shown on the previous page. The extreme right-hand box is still attached to the "hoops" which secured these boxes to telegraph poles.
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  11. mollusc

    mollusc Member

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    Officer:
    "Have you by any chance seen our platoon mascot old chap?"
    Civvy:
    "Nope, what is it?"
    Officer:
    "Our lovely fluffy bunny, goes by the name of Lucky".
    Civvy:
    "No, not at all".
    Officer:
    "Well what's that hanging off of your arse then?"
     
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  12. andy007

    andy007 Senior Member

    Great stuff guys! I frequent a few modelling forums and one of the suggestions for the box art was that the Paratroopers were on a training excercise in england, hence the civilian with shotgun and the phone box and mail box....though somebody may have got geographically muddled when drawing the box art hehe
     
  13. deadb_tch

    deadb_tch the deadliest b#tch ever

  14. GPRegt

    GPRegt Senior Member

    Great stuff guys! I frequent a few modelling forums and one of the suggestions for the box art was that the Paratroopers were on a training excercise in england, hence the civilian with shotgun and the phone box and mail box

    That was my first thought on seeing the picture. Why the manufacturer thought it illustrated Holland is, actually, typical of the 'Let's not study the situation, this picture will do' mentality which causes gentlefolk like us countless headaches.

    Steve W.
     
  15. airborne medic

    airborne medic Very Senior Member

    But don't forget there is a red phone box in Oosterbeek since about 1984 I think, it was donated by the Arnhem Veterans Club......perhaps they are re-enactors?????
     
  16. Rich Payne

    Rich Payne Rivet Counter Patron 1940 Obsessive

    But don't forget there is a red phone box in Oosterbeek since about 1984 I think, it was donated by the Arnhem Veterans Club......perhaps they are re-enactors?????

    Three reenactors and not one fat bloke ? Not possible :p
     
  17. Philip Reinders

    Philip Reinders Very Senior Member

    Indeed Rich, oosterbeek was full of fat paras en old paras, which glasses, it keeps getting funnier every year.

    And if you had a shot gun in 1944, you were probably a members of the Landwacht, also called Jan Hagel dutch traitors who worked with the Germans and called Jan Hagel ,because they carried shotguns, HAGEL stand for pellet cartridge for the shot gun
     
  18. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    It is a little known fact that due to shortages of wireless equipment, they sent in Signals linemen to set up a telephone network. Unfortunately, many of them were ex-Post Office Telephones and brought much civilian pattern gear with them.

    Furthermore, one of the concerns in occupied Holland was lack of postal communications so a letter box was standard equipment !

    Watch it lol
     
  19. deadb_tch

    deadb_tch the deadliest b#tch ever

    Poor bunny, probably died laughing while looking what's going on the picture :D
     
  20. plant-pilot

    plant-pilot Senior Member

    What's the problem? They are modeling British paratroopers of the period of the battle of Arhnem, the picture obviously depicts a scene shortly before the battle while 1st Airborne Division were still training/rehearsing for the battle itself. Hence the Telephone box, post box and British farmer out hunting for rabbits to supplement the ration.

    Quite easy really. :rolleyes:
     

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