'Starfish' Decoy Control Bunker on Liddington Hill near Swindon

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  1. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    I've been up to this bunker many times but never took photos of it.
    I thought it was an Observer Corps bunker but I was wrong.
    Only just looked it up.

    'Starfish' Decoy Control Bunker on Liddington Hill:: OS grid SU2180 :: Geograph British Isles - photograph every grid square!

    'Starfish' Decoy Control Bunker on Liddington Hill
    This is the control bunker for a WWII 'Starfish' bombing decoy site. 'SF' - standing for 'Special Fire'. This would have been used to control fires which would have acted as a decoy to enemy planes targeting the town of Swindon to the north.

    The bunker consisted off two room off a central passage. That on the right housed generators. The control room was on the left, with a hatch in the concrete roof.


    If any of you are going past Swindon on the M4 motorway you can where this is , it's up on the hill under the trees near Junction 15.

    More info on a similar Starfish bunker here.
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  2. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    This should be a direct link to it on Google Earth.
    Hope I've followed Paul's instructions properly on how to create a kmz file.
     

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  3. Paul Reed

    Paul Reed Ubique

    Blimey Owen - it certainly looks cold in Swindon!

    Interesting bunker.
     
  4. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    Indeed it does look cold....I thought we were getting it bad in Leeds when I took the dog out.

    Owen, Interesting bunker is the graffiti still inside ?
     
  5. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Owen, Interesting bunker is the graffiti still inside ?

    Probably, I didn't go in this time as I've been in it before & it's so full of junk I din't fancy going in again.
    The graffiti isn't anything special just spray-can stuff.
     
  6. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    Probably, I didn't go in this time as I've been in it before & it's so full of junk I din't fancy going in again.
    The graffiti isn't anything special just spray-can stuff.

    I know what you mean.....The two in the field across from my parents are the same- contents include a mattress and other such homely items.

    Cheers
     
  7. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

  8. militarycross

    militarycross Very Senior Member

    Owen

    This Deception is a neat story. I interviewed a vet once who was part of the lot that were southeast of London for D-Day trying to feed Hitler's belief that Normandy was a feint. Realized the importance of what he was a part of after the fact, but was not impressed to have missed the show.

    Any good essays online about this subject?

    phil
     
  9. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    Owen

    This Deception is a neat story. I interviewed a vet once who was part of the lot that were southeast of London for D-Day trying to feed Hitler's belief that Normandy was a feint. Realized the importance of what he was a part of after the fact, but was not impressed to have missed the show.

    Any good essays online about this subject?

    phil

    Hi Phil

    Slightly off topic....You don't know where by any chance do you ?

    Cheers
     
  10. GRW

    GRW Pillboxologist

    Owen,
    All I can get from Fields of Deception is that Liddington was one of two Starfish sites (SF41a Liddington and b Barbury) commissioned in the early Spring of 1941 to cover Swindon, which were co-located with two 'C' Series QL (lighting) decoys, numbered 71a and b. The NGR given for Barbury is SU149747.
    I wouldn't think there would be much left on the ground, but you never know. The decoy at Craigmaddie Muir, just north of Glasgow, still had the various pits etc for the fires still visible until a couple of years ago.
    That Liddington bunker is unusual in a couple of respects; it seems to be brieze block construction rather than shuttered concrete, and the observation hatch shaft seems higher than most others I've seen.
     
  11. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Thanks Gordon.
    Who would have operated these sites?
    Home Guard, RAF, Army ?
     
  12. GRW

    GRW Pillboxologist

    Owen,
    Probably ARP personnel, since these were civil sites. They would have had a crew of around 10, with sites consisting of fire baskets only having a crew of five.
     
  13. militarycross

    militarycross Very Senior Member

    Hi Phil

    Slightly off topic....You don't know where by any chance do you ?

    Cheers

    I will see if there is anything on the tape, otherwise I will go have a chat with him.
    phil
     
  14. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    Don't worry too much Phil, its just a curiosity thing as I'm from South East London which was classed as Kent during WW2.

    Cheers
     
  15. Gage

    Gage The Battle of Barking Creek

    Great photos, Owen.
     
  16. GRW

    GRW Pillboxologist

  17. militarycross

    militarycross Very Senior Member

    Hi Phil

    Slightly off topic....You don't know where by any chance do you ?

    Cheers

    Finally got to talk with the Vet and this is what his note to me says:

    "The 6th Anti Tank Regiment move to concentration area near Hythe, Kent on 24 April 1944. We settled into a wooded are called Sandling Park and began waterproofing vehicles for a wet landing.
    On June 10th, we were ready to move on an hour's notice. On July 4th, the entire Regiment moved to London to be embarked on LSTs.
    Sometime between April 24th and June 10, I took a troop of 74th Battery to hard standings on the bank of the Thames. No one [he checked with some other officers who still survive] can recall where these concret pads were except that they were on the banks of the lower Thames in a wooded area. I might be able to find something in the war diary - probably in Ottawa, but otherwise the location is a mystery.
    From this place, we rejoined the Regiment at Sandling Park for its move to embarkation very close to London. We crossed to Normandy on July 7th."

    So, there you have that detail, as best this young fellow can remember. When we looked at a map, he seemed to think it might be near Cliffe that there were the hard standings.

    Hope this may be of some use to you.
    phil
     
  18. Steve G

    Steve G Senior Member

    There's a couple of those things on Farlington Marshes, just west of the north west point of Portsmouth. One right inside the gate, set to observe Pompey. The other, somewhere to the sou', south east side of the marsh.

    Never gave them too much thought, back in the day. Brick built, as I remember? It's the bit about the Decoy Fires that reminds me. I'm sure I read some where, since, that they were observation posts for decoy fires. Pompey and Hayling, I'd imagine?

    Nice work in getting ths shots and detail on that one, Owen. If someone wants to do the book on the stuff around Pompey? I'll be first in the queue for a copy! ;)

    Love 'Pill Boxes' and such, me :)
     
  19. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    Cheers Phiil,

    Funny they should move back to London to load up when they were so close to Folkstone and Dover. Incidently I drive past Sandling Park on the way to my Parents (its 10 minutes ish from their house)

    Anyway thanks for getting back to me :)

    Cheers
    Andy
     
  20. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Went up there agian today.
    Bunker been plastered with grafitti, this was the better side, the entrance side is even worse.

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