Then and Now of 30th Corps in Valkenswaard

Discussion in 'NW Europe' started by sliben, Sep 12, 2014.

  1. sliben

    sliben Active Member

    Found a this picture of XXX Corps resting in Valkenswaard during the night of 17/18th September 1944, and decided to do a Then and Now of it. Hope you guys like it.

    I found a few more pictures of valkenswaard but got to work on them.

    I used Google maps to do this


    XXX Corps stopped in Valkenswaard around about 7:30pm on the 17th September 1944, and were greeted by crowds of Dutch civillians celebrating there liberation.
     

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  2. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    Anyone know the units resting?
     
  3. Guy Hudson

    Guy Hudson Looker-upper

    Sherman 'Snow White' HQ, 5th Guards Armoured Brigade. Behind, vehicles of the 3rd Battalion Irish Guards. Daimler armoured car of the 2nd Household Cavalry.

    British Tank Markings and Names; BT White
     
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  4. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    WO 171/1257 3 Irish Guards War Diary
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  5. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    WO 171/837 2 Household Cavalry War Diary

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  6. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    From the 2 Household Cavalry diary appendices
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  7. Jonathan Ball

    Jonathan Ball It's a way of life.

    Nice effort that, Ben and thanks to the addition of Andy's Diaries a good thread. I passed through a couple of weeks ago whilst travelling up the Club Route. As usual when attempting a 'Then and Now' from memory I managed to take the photo from the wrong point..

    Club Route..jpg
     
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  8. sliben

    sliben Active Member

    Good try there Jonathan. It was almost there but I guess you just had to take it from memory, but unlike me I had the picture right next to me on the computer.

    Yeah thanks Drew for posting them war diaries and Guy Hudson for telling us the units pictured.
     
  9. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    Seems to be a very popular place - I too was there 27th and 28th Aug visiting friends

    Valkenswaard 2.JPG

    one of the area devoid of all traffic.

    TD
     
  10. dbf

    dbf Moderatrix MOD

    http://ww2talk.com/forums/topic/51315-market-garden-normandy/

    Tony Brady, then a sniper, 3rd Battalion Irish Guards
    3IG War Diary
    http://ww2talk.com/forums/topic/47101-war-diary-3rd-battalion-irish-guards-jan-dec-1944/?p=555743
     
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  12. dbf

    dbf Moderatrix MOD

    A Solider's story, JOE Vandeleur
    [* Tony Brady: "It was claimed, I think Joe says he thought in his memoirs, that perhaps one of our tanks was hit by them. I’m sure they weren’t because ‘Tinker’ Taylor who was a great friend and recently died, he said he was absolutely certain they weren’t - they were firing into the Germans and of course they turned the whole thing."]

    Hujohn Ripman, RAMC attached 2 Armd IG
    Valkenswaard, Pathe News
    http://www.britishpathe.com/video/invasion-scenes-27

    http://www.britishpathe.com/video/invasion-scenes-europe-77

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  13. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    My knowledge of OMG stops at the Bridge Too Far film (My fav war film in the world ever). Looking at that 'timeline' I posted from the 2 Household Cavalry, the bit where 8 tanks were suddenly in flames is this the same bit in the film where the 25 pounders lay a barrage, the tanks get destroyed by AT fire from the woods and the RAF flatten the woods?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ggpy-f7LVTA
     
  14. XRayX

    XRayX Aalst-Waalre

    I am holding an exposition about ww2 on that spot this week.Tony Brady would have come buy unfortunately he died last Sunday night.
    R.I.P. Tony, it was nice to have known you.

    If you want to know more check out my foundations Facebook page: erfgoed 40-45
     
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  15. sliben

    sliben Active Member

    Done another one, this one was much harder becuase of the height difference between Google Maps and the War photogrpaher.
     

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  16. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    That's the one I did too.
    Great minds think alike eh?
     
  17. Jonathan Ball

    Jonathan Ball It's a way of life.

    Thought you had both of the volumes of After The Battle on your bookshelves?
     
  18. Tricky Dicky

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  19. XRayX

    XRayX Aalst-Waalre

    When the liberation task force came through Valkenswaard on the 15th of september, they made an then and now with the vehicles standing in same spots. I will try to get a copy of that.

    ray
     
  20. Dubman

    Dubman Well-Known Member

    great pics. I've checked 73rd antit ank WD, they were just outside on that date.
     

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