Think of some new projects...

Discussion in 'Modelling' started by kfz, Mar 14, 2007.

  1. kfz

    kfz Very Senior Member

    I always have in the back of my mid some things id like to do. What about you, whaty upcomming projects have you got on or would like to do.

    Id love a Studebaker kurishka (sp??).

    Opel Blitz ive got waiting.

    I wanna do another big Jerry after I enjoyed the Elephant so much, so
    maybe a King Tiger, JagdTiger or jagdpanther. Tons of weathering and damage. Loads of action.

    I wanna do a bog basic Sherman with 75mm gun prob in British Western Desert.

    Ive gone Panzer IV mad so a Hornesse would finish things off nice there. Does anyone do Bergepanzer IV??

  2. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    One thing I've been meaning to do for a while is an original spec Alamein Sherman with all the etch and whistles but weirdly none of my favoured manufacturers do one in 1/35...yet.
    Keep looking at the stack of kits and realising I'm a bit sick of making tanks at the mo so I just did an M2A1 halftrack (Dragon) and that was great fun. Trucks in general make a pleasant change at the moment. I reckon Artillery is the most satisfying (Dragon's 1/35 88 is a beauty) but I don't reckon it would be much fun in 1/72nd??

    Big Jerry?: Revell's FAMO was a fine kit that really showed it's recently produced origins.

    How about a really good quality Jeep? Tiny but satisfying.
    Don't know what's available from the really posh resin boys but there's some nice sets from Academy of 'ground vehicles', one has a kubel, a jeep & a teeny tiny kettenkrad which I loved; ok quality and very satisfying.

    Academy's Jimmy was good too, about the best 1/72 I've yet done:
    Ramble ramble blah blah.... nothing worse than the 'born again' eh?
  3. cpstu1

    cpstu1 Junior Member

    Decent US Army squad for the advance in to Germany.........:P

    stuart :)
  4. Gerard

    Gerard Seelow/Prora

    I'd like to get back into this by doing some figures, possibly Fallschirmjager but the following are also being lined up:

    B-24 Liberator
    P-47 Thunderbolt (Yes I know THAT aircraft beloved by THAT person!!!)
    F-4U Corsair
    Tiger Tank
  5. kfz

    kfz Very Senior Member

    got a Panzer 2 with skirts. dont know what colour thats goin to be.

    Got a Blitz, tons of options here. Fancy doing Luftwaffe, or maybe a full on 3 colour splodgy mess.

    A greyhound, maybe white????

  6. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

  7. kfz

    kfz Very Senior Member

    IVe nearly finished the Panzer 3, its alte model with the skirts, no idea what colour t should be.

    I love my Pz4 in panzer grey, but i guess it would be too late in the war for it????

    Open to suggestions..

  8. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    I love my Pz4 in panzer grey, but i guess it would be too late in the war for it????

    If I remember rightly, at the end of the war the Germans were running out of paint.
    mollusc made a Pz IVJ years ago and did it grey.
    He said it was OK.
  9. Za Rodinu

    Za Rodinu Hot air manufacturer

    Owen, you should find this useful, from - Panzer Facts

    As with all of their procurement efforts, Germany established a program to control manufacturing and application of camouflage paints. Specifications were sent to the paint suppliers detailing the exact method for preparing test specimens to send in for examination and approval. In addition, the inspectors at the assembly plants were provided with color swatches to use in accepting products painted in accordance with orders specified in contracts. This strictly controlled and enforced program ensured uniformity in both the paint and the final assembled product. These camouflage paints were used for the entire range of military equipment and vehicles intended for frontline use - not just Panzers.

    At the start of the War, all Panzers were painted in a two-tone scheme of Dunklegrau (dark grey) and Dunklebraun (dark brown). Dunklegrau RAL 46 (later renumbered RAL 7021) was the base coat. Irregularly shaped patches of Dunklebraun RAL 45 (later renumbered RAL 7017) were to be spray painted onto 1/3rd of the surface.

    In June 1940, a general order was issued to stop applying patches of Dunklebraun and only use Dunklegrau RAL 46 for the entire surface.
    In February 1943, a general order was issued to change the base coat from Dunklegrau to Dunklegelb nach Muster (later numbered RAL 7028) - a tan color. Field units were issued tins of Rotbraun RAL 8017 (red brown) and Olivgruen RAL 6003 (dark olive green) paste concentrate to create camouflage patterns suitable for local conditions. This practice continued after Panzers were covered with anti-magnetic Zimmerit starting in August 1943.

    In August 1944, an order was issued to the assembly firms to apply the camouflage pattern at the assembly plant using Dunklegelb RAL 7028 as the base coat with Olivgruen RAL 6003 and Rotbraun RAL 8017 applied in patches. This order created the uniform pattern which has become known as the “ambush” camouflage scheme.

    Following the order to drop Zimmerit in September 1944, Panzers left the assembly plants with a base coat of primer Rot RAL 8012 (dark red) with only about half of the surface covered with patches of Rotbraun, Olivgruen, or Dunklegelb.

    Finally, as initiated by orders dated November 1944 - but not to go into full effect until June 1945 - the Panzers were to receive a base coat of Dunkelgruen (RAL 6003). A camouflage pattern was to be created at the assembly plant by spraying on Rotbraun or Dunklegelb in sharp contours.
  10. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Cheers Za, I've been carrying this misconception aound for 20 years thanks to some dodgey info from me mate.
  11. Za Rodinu

    Za Rodinu Hot air manufacturer

    Don't worry, the "Panzer Grey at the end of the War" myth was already in the old but authoritive "Panzer Colors" (without the "u") books. Of course in BW photos it's impossible to distinguish between grey, rust or dk green colour.

    Actually they would have been extremely lucky to find stocks of old paint in any useful amount 2 years after it was discontinued.
  12. kfz

    kfz Very Senior Member

    Thanks guys.
    ITs not really the end of the war. Its 1943. BTW its amazing how many times I saw pictures of PIII Aust M/N incorrectly captioned in books as PIV's, esp from behind. The big air intakes and funny silerncer are giveaways.

    Ok im going for a panzer grey with a Tan/Sand lined camaflague. Looks hard, i hate puttingl ight colours on dark, but see how it goes. Its a new scheme for me.

  13. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Wandered into the two model shops in Swindon today, totally overwhelmed by the choice. Didn't have a clue what to buy.
    Haven't made my Matilda yet so will decide when that is done.
    Think I'll do the Malta camo.
    Save the winter camo for a T-34 or Pz III.
  14. Bodston

    Bodston Little Willy

    I have done a bit of kit bashing, in the past. So I fancy a sort of what if? scenario. Maybe if the boot was on the other foot so to speak. I would love to see a JadgSherman...

    Take an early mark of Sherman probably an M4 (easier with a welded model). It would need direct vison slots. Carry the front glacis and slab sides on up a foot or two, to a flat roof with the usual commanders cupola and a gunners hatch. Bang in a 90mm gun from a M36 or Pershing in a limited traverse mount, big armoured mantlet. Paint it olive drab and put a big star on the side.

    Something like this quick sketch

    Attached Files:

  15. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    I bet somewhere, sometime some one tried it .
    They did everything else to an M4.
  16. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    Wandered into the two model shops in Swindon today.
    Just accidentally wandered into 2 seperate shops did you? Just by sheer chance stumbled across their threshold while looking for a newsagent?
    Welcome back to nerdsville ;).

    Know what you mean about impossible choices, spent an hour this morning deciding between a 1/72nd IS3 and a 1/35 LVT(A)4....

    Love the Jagdsherman. :).

    By the way Bodston, how about actually building some of the not inconsiderable stash? Or would that spoil their pristine 'unbuiltness'? :p.
  17. Bodston

    Bodston Little Willy

    Know what you mean about impossible choices, spent an hour this morning deciding between a 1/72nd IS3 and a 1/35 LVT(A)4....

    What buying or building?

    Love the Jagdsherman. :).

    That I am tempted to do... but what scale...

    By the way Bodston, how about actually building some of the not inconsiderable stash? Or would that spoil their pristine 'unbuiltness'? :p.[/QUOTE]
    The stash has grown considerably since you last saw it. I'm getting quite ashamed. Lots more resin bits have arrived too.
  18. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    H 14956 This could be an interesting paint job.


    A Matilda tank of the 49th Royal Tank Regiment advances over rough ground during an exercise near Dover, 23 October 1941. The vehicle is suitably marked with swastikas and crosses to represent an enemy tank.

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