Uffz Ernst Nittmann!

Discussion in 'Axis Units' started by Bob Mohawk, Jan 14, 2023.

  1. Bob Mohawk

    Bob Mohawk Member

    Hello,

    I'm armature hobby historian based in the UK and I am currently researching a German pilot who was shot down and captured in ww2.

    I strongly believe that he was sent to Canada but as of yet I have no evidence of my theory!

    Pilot Details: Uffz Ernst Nittmann
    Aircraft: Me Bf109e4.JG27 white 8 wnr 6318L
    Date of capture 06/09/1940
    Location of capture: Canterbury, Kent UK

    Any information however small would be most useful

    Thank you

    Bob
     
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  2. Lindele

    Lindele formerly HA96

    Welcome to the Forum Bob. I will try my German friends researching similar shutdowns both British and German
    Stefan.
     
  3. Bob Mohawk

    Bob Mohawk Member

    Awesome, Thanks Lindele
     
  4. davidbfpo

    davidbfpo Patron Patron

    Bob,

    I see your quest started in 2021, so welcome to the expertise here.

    There is this thread: https://www.luftwaffe-research-group.com/threads/p-o-w-german-prisoners-of-war.30805/post-120677 however it is not currently available. Now, ten minutes later I can see: 7 Staffel - Bf109E-1, WNr.6318, White 8+, Uffz. Ernst Nittmann, Blean, near Canterbury 06.09.1940 This is not a website I frequent.

    This thread provides some context and this passage suggest tracking others who became POW that day is an option (Yes, I know from other posts two of them died):
    From and it is the only reference to him on this website: This Day in the Battle of Britain

    Elsewhere, invariably regarding UK & Commonwealth POW, advice has been given to apply to the ICRC (Red Cross) for information; the portal only opens infrequently. See for details: Requests for information about people held during Spanish Civil War or Second World War: Quarterly limit reached (Taken from a Post October 2022 by Steve).
     
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  5. Bob Mohawk

    Bob Mohawk Member

    My quest has be ongoing for quite a few years when one has time. I am indeed on the Luftwaffe-research-group and other forums I spread my self about a bit. If you guys are interested I think I have the battle report of Nittmann.
     
  6. davidbfpo

    davidbfpo Patron Patron

    Presumably there was a UK POW record card for him (following the German & Italian practice seen here) and a list of those POW shipped onto a particular ship heading that way (or elsewhere). Would the UK authorities provide an update on such POW movement(s) to the ICRC?

    Did he survive the war? Have you located an obituary for him? Sometimes you have to work backwards. Scrolling around there was a reference to 10% of German & Italian POWs held in the UK did not return to Germany (East or West). Would it be worth checking naturalisation papers? Even marriages in Canada and the UK?
     
  7. Tullybrone

    Tullybrone Senior Member

  8. Bob Mohawk

    Bob Mohawk Member

    I know nothing else about Nittmann after he landed? I only presumed he went to Canada after researching what they did to the officers?
    I can follow the plane to Cornwall where it was used for propaganda purposes. The plane was being shipped to Australia for the same purposes however.... the boat was lost at sea either by storm/Military intervention!

    I did try the Red Cross last year but I was too late!
     
  9. Bob Mohawk

    Bob Mohawk Member

    The only problem with Red Cross is that want to know what connection you have with the person and proof of connection!
     
  10. Tullybrone

    Tullybrone Senior Member

    Hi,

    Having made more than a handful of enquiries over a number of years - including one for a German POW - I agree there is a “connection” question but - unless they have changed the process in the last 6 months - I have never been asked for proof of the claimed “connection”.

    Depends how desperate you are to get the information and how comfortable you are completing the application form with less than 100% accurate answers……..

    Steve
     
  11. Lindele

    Lindele formerly HA96

    I have received an interesting story, in German though.
    Do you read German?
    Also, for the benefit of most other members, I will do a rough translation tomorrow.
    Stefan.
     
  12. RAFCommands

    RAFCommands Senior Member

    "I know nothing else about Nittmann after he landed?"

    For a few days after landing he was processed by AI.1(k)

    This is the copy of the Intelligence Summary signed off by Sqdn/Ldr Felkin on 7th Sept.

    Ross
     

    Attached Files:

  13. Bob Mohawk

    Bob Mohawk Member

    You guys are truly amazing!
     
  14. Bob Mohawk

    Bob Mohawk Member

     
  15. Lindele

    Lindele formerly HA96


    At the beginning of the war, all fighter groups like JG 27were restarted

    At that time leading aircraft man Ernst Nittmann was part of I/JG 1 of JG27.

    That was also why it is so difficult to track down Uffz. ErnstNittmann. The chronic of JG27 reports of fierce fighting in the Channel Region. The plane of Lieutenant Birkenbach was shot down and killed him. Nittmann was only wounded and returned to the airport. On 6th September he was back in the air with 4 others, shot down and
    kept as POW until 1945.
    i hope that helps.
    Stefan.
     
  16. Bob Mohawk

    Bob Mohawk Member

    By any chance do you know where he was kept?
     
  17. Bob Mohawk

    Bob Mohawk Member

    Out of curiosity did the pilots get taken too the nearest military base for integration or just the nearest police station?
     
  18. Lindele

    Lindele formerly HA96

    I do not know about UK, in Nazi Germany it was a POW camp, only briefly the crew would spend a night or two in a local prison.
    Stefan.
     
  19. Bob Mohawk

    Bob Mohawk Member

    Thanks Stefan
     
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    Mr Jinks Bit of a Cad

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