War Records - help with abbreviations & interpretation of service records

Discussion in 'Searching for Someone & Military Genealogy' started by bofors, Oct 3, 2009.

  1. bofors

    bofors Senior Member

    Hi all

    Last page of him in the 13th LAA
    What is a Shue mine?
    Still moving up and doing lots of different roles


    regards

    Robert
     

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  2. Rob Dickers

    Rob Dickers 10th MEDIUM REGT RA

    Well done with the diary Robert:)
    Fragmenting AP Mines: The Schu or Shu-Mine is a small wood box fragmentation mine. It measures six-inch by six-inch and contains a detonator and a solid charge. Another name or spelling of this mine is "Shoe Mine" or "Shoe Box " mine. The "Shoe Box" was a favorite among the Germans. Small in size and constructed primary of wood, the Schu is next to impossible to discover with a normal metal mine detector. It seldom kills instead the sinister device mutilates the unfortunate victim.

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  3. bofors

    bofors Senior Member

    Hi Rob

    Thanks for that and the information.
    Would not like to run into one or try to defuse it or find it!!!
    Seems my Dad's war experience got a bit harder while he was in Italy and he would have learnt a lot of stuff not related to AA use!
    regards

    Robert
     
  4. Tom Canning

    Tom Canning WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    Contrary to the statement by Rob - that the schu mine seldom kills - a friend of mine stood on one while refuelling a Panther Tank which we had aquired when "Smoky" Smith of the Canadian Seaforths was winning his V.C. at the Savio River - this thing jumped up to waist high and exploded with a few hundred ball bearings entering the lower part of his body at white heat into every organ in that area - he died in agony on the way to the CCs - nothing could be done for him - that was on November 11th 1944 - his name - Walter Pollard of "A" squadron 145th RAC - he is buried at Cesena

    Cheers
     
  5. bofors

    bofors Senior Member

    Hi Tom

    Thanks for that, not a nice way to go. I acknowledge his sacrifice.

    regards

    Robert
     
  6. WhiskeyGolf

    WhiskeyGolf Senior Member

    Hi Robert
    In NZ you can request 1 file per year free, but anymore during that same year costs NZ$25. The documents they send you are copies of what they have on file - not summaries.
    Cheers
    Wendy
     
  7. bofors

    bofors Senior Member

    Hi Wendy
    Pity the Poms did not do the same, I would like to have a copy of the originals, but the summary is at least something!!

    regards

    Robert
     
  8. bofors

    bofors Senior Member

    Hi all

    He was then transferred to the 13th, I remember from somewhere else the 14 was transferred to France? I am glad he stayed in Italy as I think they would have had it a bit easier than those in France/Germany?
    Went in as a reinforcement as lots of the 13th were being sent home.
    Looks like they did POW escort duties- take POW's to camps? and then were in charge of looking after a camp. Then fighting ceased!!!
    I wonder if Dad had a go on riding the horses they had?
    I also heard that Dad transported Germans back to Germany, but no indication there? Is it possible?

    regards

    Robert
     

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  9. bofors

    bofors Senior Member

    Hi all

    This is the last page supplied to me. Not much to say, changed officers, moved around a bit, went to Rome and disbanded.
    But it still leaves a gap in Dad's war service. Would be interesting to find out what he did then.


    regards

    Robert
     

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  10. bofors

    bofors Senior Member

    Hi all

    Finally, but by no means least, here he is, my Dad.
    Pity the photo did not include his shoulder as it would have shown his rank and shoulder patch which would be great to see.
    I am proud of what he did, pity I did not talk to him about it, or have access to these records when he was alive.

    My advice to people who are reading this is, if you know of someone in your family who served, talk to them about it while you still can; if you did serve, talk to your family, or at least write it all down, before it is too late.

    regards

    Robert

    PS Note the Africa Star with 8th Army Clasp - so would have the photo been taken in Rome or Italy, rather than back in Scotland?
     

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  11. Ron Goldstein

    Ron Goldstein WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    PS Note the Africa Star with 8th Army Clasp - so would have the photo been taken in Rome or Italy, rather than back in Scotland?


    Robert

    Have a look back within your Dad's records for the date that he was awarded the Africa Star & Clasp. It would have been some time in 1944. From that time on any snap of him in battledress would show him wearing that ribbon.
    The photo does seem to have been taken abroad, probably Italy.

    Ron
     
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  12. bofors

    bofors Senior Member

    Hi Ron

    Thanks for confirming that!

    regards

    Robert

    PS If anyone can help with the questions I have asked before that have not been answered, then please do so.
     
  13. BFBSM

    BFBSM Very Senior Member

    I have just sat and read this thread, all very interesting information.
     
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  14. bofors

    bofors Senior Member

    Hi BFBSM

    Glad you enjoyed it and hope it is of some use, that was my idea to help others as well as get some answers myself

    regards

    Robert
     
  15. BFBSM

    BFBSM Very Senior Member

    Hi BFBSM

    Glad you enjoyed it and hope it is of some use, that was my idea to help others as well as get some answers myself

    regards

    Robert

    It helped me with a few things in the records I have. To interesting and helpful. Thanks again!:D
     
  16. bofors

    bofors Senior Member

    Dad would have been 90 today.
    Miss him and still wish I could talk to him about all of his records!
     

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