WW2 Uniform

Discussion in 'US Units' started by childe00, Oct 9, 2009.

  1. childe00

    childe00 Junior Member

    I was handed down my grandfather's WW2 jacket and some other clothing. I hope this is the right place to post this. Was wondering if anyone could give me some insight to this jacket - what is the rank? I also have some other items I may post soon - Nazi dress swords and other collectibles such as Nazi belt buckles, papers, and medals.

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  2. Heimbrent

    Heimbrent Well-Known Member

    That's tech sgt. (senior NCO) if I'm not mistaken.

    Very nice stuff btw, and great that your granddad kept it!
     
  3. childe00

    childe00 Junior Member

    That's tech sgt. (senior NCO) if I'm not mistaken.

    Very nice stuff btw, and great that your granddad kept it!

    Thanks. I should take pictures of some of the other stuff. I know he has a German helmet with the lining still intact --- unfortunately my father, at a young age, scratched off the eagle with a knife.
     
  4. James Daly

    James Daly Senior Member

    Thats very nice stuff. Genuine WW2 uniforms are much sought after and fetching higher and higher prices nowadays.
     
  5. Slipdigit

    Slipdigit Old Hickory Recon

    You grandfather was a Technician Fourth Grade.

    He possessed some skill that the army wanted to pay him for, but that did not require him to command or lead. He was treated as a sergeant as far as military courtesies were concerned. There were three grade T3, T4, & T5, wth T3 being the same as a staff sergeant and T5 a corporal. These ranks were phased out a few years after the war.

    They were essentially the same thing as the Specialist grades created in 1955 and still in use during Vietnam. I think only the S4 is still in use.

    What did your grandfather do? Are there any unit patches or other insignia on the coat?
     
  6. childe00

    childe00 Junior Member

    You grandfather was a Technician Fourth Grade.

    He possessed some skill that the army wanted to pay him for, but that did not require him to command or lead. He was treated as a sergeant as far as military courtesies were concerned. There were three grade T3, T4, & T5, wth T3 being the same as a staff sergeant and T5 a corporal. These ranks were faced out a few years after the war.

    They were essentially the same thing as the Specialist grades created in 1955 and still in use during Vietnam. I think only the S4 is still in use.

    What did your grandfather do? Are there any unit patches or other insignia on the coat?

    Thank you for the detailed response. All the patches etc were ripped off ( I believe they are in a box, I have to look). I plan to post more pictures in this thread in the next few days. Stay tuned - I'm sure I have some stuff you guys would want to see - especially the Nazi dress swords.
     
  7. Slipdigit

    Slipdigit Old Hickory Recon

    I should have typed phased instead of faced.

    I look forward to seeing the other insignia, although I will be a bit out pocket this weekend.
     
  8. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    Hello and welcome to the forum...Looking forward to the other pictures :)
     
  9. militarycross

    militarycross Very Senior Member

    Welcome to the forum, friend. Hope you enjoy your time among us.

    cheers,
    phil
     
  10. Smudger Jnr

    Smudger Jnr Our Man in Berlin

    Hello and welcome to the forum.
    I look forward to seeing more of your photographs. It certainly sounds like a very good collection.

    Regards
    Tom
     
  11. childe00

    childe00 Junior Member

    Here are some swords that were passed down to me. I never had them appraised. Not many people know I even have them. Just a few close relatives. I imagine they are valuable. As many antique/museums I been to - I never seen anything like this displayed. Any information on any of these swords would be appreciated. The last 2 pictures are of the German helmet.

    I am going to link the images due to their large size:



    Helmet:
    http://imgur.com/Bv009.jpg
    http://imgur.com/PwXp8.jpg
     
  12. militarycross

    militarycross Very Senior Member

    Very nice pieces you have there.
    What is the liner like on the helmet? Good condition I hope.
    Thanks for posting.

    cheers,
    phil
     
  13. Heimbrent

    Heimbrent Well-Known Member

    The second pair look like a Fliegerdolch and -schwert (dagger and sword, GAF). It was worn by officers and men alike.
    The embossing on the police bayonet states Alexander Coppel, a company in Solingen. S.Sch II stands for Kiel, Schleswig district, Prussian Schutzpolizei.
     
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  14. childe00

    childe00 Junior Member

    The second pair look like a Fliegerdolch and -schwert (dagger and sword, GAF). It was worn by officers and men alike.
    The embossing on the police bayonet states Alexander Coppel, a company in Solingen. S.Sch II stands for Kiel, Schleswig district, Prussian Schutzpolizei.

    Interesting stuff, somewhat scary...


    Thanks for the information. I never expect the dagger to be a police bayonet.

    It seems the other 2 swords are Luftwaffe daggers.

    Any information on the sword with the acorns in the handle?
     
  15. childe00

    childe00 Junior Member

    Going to bump this old thread. I was told he was a barber, woudl that be what you mean?
     
  16. Slipdigit

    Slipdigit Old Hickory Recon

    I'll have to look at the military occupation specialty list.

    Stateside, if I remember right, most of the barbering work was done by civilian contractors. In the field it was done on an ad hoc basis by whomever had the skills and tools . I don't think "barber" was carried on the TO&E of any unit.

    It is possible that he happened to do some barbering because he had the ability, but it probably was not his main job with the unit.
     
  17. childe00

    childe00 Junior Member

    OK let me know!
     
  18. Slipdigit

    Slipdigit Old Hickory Recon

    Your pictures are no longer there. Could you repost them?
     
  19. Slipdigit

    Slipdigit Old Hickory Recon

    There was an MOS for barbers - 22.

    Looking at TO&E for combat formations, I do not see barbers listed in the numerous ones I have gone over.

    I do not have TO&Es for support units such as quartermasters, hospital, etc. There could be barbers in those type units, I'm guessing.
     
  20. childe00

    childe00 Junior Member

    So, what do we learn from this? He would of just served being a barber?
     

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