You very rarely see props at crash sites , although I am glad the gent came to no serious injury the "Soar Away Sun" - Twingo Bingo in The Sun" have never been one to take anything away from anything in the telling of anything. "In The Sun In the Sun , In The Sun In The Sun". Hi James, I think the Sun has actually been quite measured on this (rare) occaision. Both the Daily Record and the mighty Scotsman newspapers have added that this Lancaster took part in the Dambuster Raid! Climber tells how propeller from crashed Lancaster bomber saved his life - The Daily Record Climbers saved by 60-year-old plane crash - The Scotsman and I think the following explains why the props are stil there: The wreckage of the Lancaster was destroyed in situ by explosives, resulting in wreckage parts being strewn down the mountainside. Although more widely scattered now, substantial parts still remain, including the four Packard Merlin engines, landing gear, propellers, etc. A memorial plaque is fixed to a blade on one of the propellers. The plaque reads: In memory of the eight crew members of Lancaster TX264 Which crashed at this site in the early hours of 14 March 1951 Hillwalking / Mountaineering Notes Caution Depending on the season and prevailing conditions, this can be a difficult and potentially dangerous site to reach. Access to some of the wreckage may require the use of ropes, ice axes, etc. This climb should be attempted only by experienced and well-equipped hillwalkers or mountaineers. from: Lancaster TX264 Tom.
My Old Dad. I think the Sun has actually been quite measured on this (rare) occaision. Both the Daily Record and the mighty Scotsman newspapers have added that this Lancaster took part in the Dambuster Raid! The press are something else , I was once asked to talk to a local reporter regarding a crashed aircraft . The lassie I talked to was really looking for a story which didn't exist and rightly questioned everything I told her but had to be brought back on track several times when she seemed to think that not all the crew had been recovered. This might be a first for the Sun , to understate something.
Check out the "Brecon Beacons National Park" web site for air crashes in the Beacons also " Rocks in the Clouds" by Edward Doylerush
Hello friend I have a special liking to watch the aircraft crash sites. I spend hours on watching these in the TV. As from my childhood I have a dream to be an aircraft pilot. But it all depends upon my hard work.If any one has any more useful suggestion then can share with me. Thanks WWII Films
I had the privilege of visiting Hazelrigg Jewish Cemetery near Newcastle-upon-Tyne yesterday. When phoning the Rabbi to thank him for allowing me access, he mentioned that the airman below had been interred long after the war. I wonder how I can find out whether his remains had been discovered near his crash site or where he was previously interred. Name:TREISTER, JOEL Initials:J Nationality:New Zealand Rank:Sergeant (Pilot) Regiment/Service:Royal New Zealand Air Force Age:24 Date of Death:07/07/1942 Service No:412287 Additional information:Son of Samuel and Mary Treister; husband of Pearl Treister of Remuera, Auckland, New Zealand. Casualty Type:Commonwealth War Dead Grave/Memorial Reference:Grave 189. Cemetery:HAZELRIGG JEWISH CEMETERY
Peter im sure a forum member will turn up some info found the link below Papers Past — Evening Post — 14 July 1942 — AIR FORCE CASUALTIES
Death registration details below; Name: Joel Treister Death Registration Month/Year: 1942 Age at death (estimated): 24 Registration district: Wigton Inferred County: Cumberland Volume: 10b Page: 584 The War Graves Photographic Project
Hello Tom. I have heard of at least 5 crash sites within an half hour drive of Doune. 1) Whitley on the Moss near Thornhill. 2) Spitfire car park of Bridge end hotel Callander. 3)Whitley Braes o' Balquidder. 4) Spitfire Lake of Menteith. 5) Either Spitfire or German bomber Hill o' Row road near The Biggins cottages. Most of these as you will know because of the terrain were cleared soon after , but i am led to believe the Spit ? is still in the Lake and those with a determind nature may still find bits of the Whitley on the Braes o' Balquidder.
I don't know whether anyone else has posted this already Midland aircraft recovery group, Warwickshire & Worcestershire aviation history The Midland Aircraft Recovery Group. It has a list of Midlands air crashes by year and includes aircraft number and crew members. For the North Oxfordshire area it has been really helpful. LittleVera
Following a recent visit to Kirkbride Airfield, Cumbria and reading up on the research about this crash, here is a little extra information about the loss of Sergeant Treister: Sergeant Joel Treister was piloting a Miles Master aircraft from RAF Annan, Dumfrieshire on 7 July 1942 when it crashed in boggy ground at Kelsick (between Wigton and Silloth), Cumberland (now Cumbria). The second occupant of the aircraft, Flight Lieutenant Rockel, was able to successfully parachute out before it crashed. A rescue team was made up of members of No 18 Bomb Disposal Unit (18 BDS) was called out from RAF Kirkbride, which is about 5 miles (c. 8 kms) to the north of the crash site, arriving at 22.00 h. The rescue party worked 'flat out' for 3 hours to recover Sergeant Treister, believed to be still inside the aircraft which was embedded in the boggy ground. They then had to call it a day and returned early the following morning for what they now knew would be an operation to recover Sergeant Treister's body. The recovery attempt was severely hampered by the collapsing bog and water continually filling in the hole the rescue party had dug to get to the aircraft. On 10 July 1942 the party '... found traces of the dead pilot...' and the party continued its attempts to recover Sergeant Treister's body but because of the difficulties, the continuing inflow of water and problems with the timber being used to shore up the excavation, the Commanding Officer of 12 M.U at RAF Kirkbride, Wing Commander J.W. Mitchell, ordered the recovery attempt be abandoned, and notified the O.C. of RAF Annan and the county coroner for Cumberland. Wing Commander Mitchell recorded his appreciation of the attempt by the team from 18 BDS to recover Sergeant Treister's body from the crashed aircraft: "Every member of the Squadron, from the Officer in Charge downwards refused to give in until the situation became hopeless". I hope this at least partly answers a question that was first posed in 2011. Sergeant Treister's body must have been recovered some time after the war (although I do not have the actual date). Presumably, Sergeant Treister was laid to rest in Hazelrigg Jewish Cemetery because of his religion, rather than being buried in a Cumbrian civil cemetery with CWGC graves? Carlisle cemetery has a number of CWGC graves and is not too far from Annan or Kirkbride. As a New Zelander, Sergeant Treister is buried a long way from his homeland but at least he now has a final resting place and, one hopes, not forgotten. .......................... [There is an extended account of this incident and more about RAF Kirkbride in "Cumbria Airfields in the Second World War including the Isle of Man" by Martyn Chorlton (2006)]
I was amused by the earlier post on here about how the press cover this sort of thing. I was part of the team who with Ian McLachlan, carried out one final dig on the site of 385BG B-17G '370', almost exactly a year after Time Team's fiasco at the other site. While we were there a very petite and busty female reporter arrived, and as Ian was leaving to meet some other media representatives on the edge of the marshes, asked me to 'fill her in'. I began by asking her to ensure she referred to them as US Army Air Force aircraft and not "US Air Force". She scribbled this down and asked what type of aircraft we were digging up. I explained this was a B-17 Flying Fortress, an American four-engine heavy bomber. She asked what had happened to the aircraft. I told her it had been involved in a mid-air collision and the other B-17 had crashed on the edge of the marshes near Decoy Carr. Her response: "Oh! There were two of them were there? Were the drivers killed in both of them?" At this stage I handed her the press release Ian had prepared and politely took my leave...
