50th Infantry Division (Northumberland) - A few Questions

Discussion in 'Higher Formations' started by DaveWalters, Apr 7, 2007.

  1. DaveWalters

    DaveWalters Junior Member

    Hi - Could anyone give me the dates that the 50th Infantry Division was attached to the 8th Army, the 2nd Army, the 15th Army Group and the 21st Army Group. Additionally is there an online source which would let me know which Corps this division was encompassed by.
    Thanks in advance.

    Got a bit of further info and it looks like the 50th were never part of the 2nd Army or the 15th Army Group - is this correct or am I getting confused again.
     
  2. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Dave,
    I'll look it up tonight in this book.
    [​IMG]
     
  3. DaveWalters

    DaveWalters Junior Member

    Thanks Owen but I think the way to go is for me to buyt the book myself. It's available at Amazon so I'll do it now - cheers.
     
  4. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    <TABLE width="100%" bgColor=#cccccc border=1><TBODY><TR><TD>Period</TD><TD>Served under</TD><TD>Theatre</TD><TD>Battles</TD></TR><TR><TD>03.09.1939-23.10.1939 </TD><TD>Northern Command</TD><TD>United Kingdom</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD>24.10.1939-19.01.1940</TD><TD>Southern Command</TD><TD>United Kingdom</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD>20.01.1940-28.03.1940</TD><TD>GHQ British Expeditionary Force (BEF)</TD><TD>France & Belgium</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD>29.03.1940-17.05.1940</TD><TD>2 Corps</TD><TD>France & Belgium</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD>17.05.1940-24.05.1940</TD><TD>GHQ British Expeditionary Force (BEF)</TD><TD>France & Belgium</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD>25.05.1940-26.05.1940</TD><TD>3 Corps</TD><TD>France & Belgium</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD>26.05.1940-31.05.1940</TD><TD>2 Corps</TD><TD>France & Belgium</TD><TD>Ypres - Comines Canal</TD></TR><TR><TD>31.05.1940-01.06.1940</TD><TD>1 Corps</TD><TD>France & Belgium</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD>02.06.1940-19.06.1940</TD><TD>War Office Control</TD><TD>United Kingdom</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD>20.06.1940-22.11.1940</TD><TD>5 Corps</TD><TD>United Kingdom</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD>22.11.1940-17.03.1941</TD><TD>8 Corps</TD><TD>United Kingdom</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD>17.03.1941-31.03.1941</TD><TD>GHQ Home Forces</TD><TD>United Kingdom</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD>01.04.1941-11.04.1941</TD><TD>8 Corps</TD><TD>United Kingdom</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD>12.04.1941-13.06.1941</TD><TD>War Office Control</TD><TD>United Kingdom | at sea [23.04]</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD>14.06.1941-24.07.1941</TD><TD>HQ British Troops in Egypt (BTE)</TD><TD>Egypt</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD>25.07.1941-20.11.1941</TD><TD>GHQ Middle East Forces (MEF)</TD><TD>Cyprus | in transit [04.11]</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD>21.11.1941-19.01.1942</TD><TD>HQ British Troops Iraq</TD><TD>Iraq | in transit [13.01]</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD>21.01.1942-10.02.1942</TD><TD>9 Army</TD><TD>Syria</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD>11.02.1942-20.02.1942</TD><TD>GHQ Middle East Forces (MEF)</TD><TD>Egypt</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD>21.02.1942-15.06.1942</TD><TD>13 Corps</TD><TD>Lybia</TD><TD>Gazala</TD></TR><TR><TD>15.06.1942-20.06.1942</TD><TD>30 Corps</TD><TD>Egypt</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD>20.06.1942-24.06.1942</TD><TD>13 Corps</TD><TD>Egypt</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD>24.06.1942-30.06.1942</TD><TD>10 Corps</TD><TD>Egypt</TD><TD>Mersa Matruh</TD></TR><TR><TD>01.07.1942-04.10.1942</TD><TD>8 Army</TD><TD>Egypt</TD><TD>Defence of Alamein Line</TD></TR><TR><TD>05.10.1942-26.11.1942</TD><TD>13 Corps</TD><TD>Egypt</TD><TD>El Alamein</TD></TR><TR><TD>27.11.1942-05.12.1942</TD><TD>8 Army</TD><TD>Egypt</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD>05.12.1942-01.01.1943</TD><TD>10 Corps</TD><TD>Lybia</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD>02.01.1943-14.04.1943</TD><TD>30 Corps</TD><TD>Lybia | North Africa [05.03]</TD><TD>Mareth | Akarit</TD></TR><TR><TD>14.04.1943-24.04.1943</TD><TD>10 Corps</TD><TD>North Africa</TD><TD>Enfidaville</TD></TR><TR><TD>24.04.1943-09.05.1943</TD><TD>8 Army</TD><TD>North Africa | Libya [28.04]</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD>10.05.1943-13.08.1943</TD><TD>13 Corps</TD><TD>Egypt | at sea [29.06] | Sicily [10.07]</TD><TD>Landing in Sicily</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD>13.08.1943-26.09.1944</TD><TD>30 Corps</TD><TD>Sicily | at sea [19.10.43] | United Kingdom [06.11.43]
    | at sea [01.06.44] | NW Europe [06.06.44]</TD><TD>Normandy Landing | The Nederrijn</TD></TR><TR><TD>26.09.1944-01.10.1944</TD><TD>8 Corps</TD><TD>NW Europe</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD>01.10.1944-09.11.1944</TD><TD>30 Corps</TD><TD>NW Europe</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD>09.11.1944-01.12.1944</TD><TD>2 Canadian Corps</TD><TD>NW Europe</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD>02.12.1944-12.12.1944</TD><TD>21 Army Group</TD><TD>NW Europe | at sea [12.12]</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD>13.12.1944-31.08.1945</TD><TD>War Office Control</TD><TD>United Kingdom | Norway [25.08]</TD><TD></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>


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  5. DaveWalters

    DaveWalters Junior Member

    Thanks hugely. Have to admit that Kyt gave me that link by PM a while back, but thanks anyway. Something I don't understand from that table though for example all the dates it lists as being under a Corps control wouldn't the Division also have been under an Army Control and an Army Group/GHQ.

    Also my Copy of Delaforce arrived this morning - yayyyyyy.
     
  6. 51highland

    51highland Very Senior Member

    Re 50th Div. This from Camerons regimental history, the attack at Wadi Akarit, North africa, 6th April 1943.
     

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  7. Rich Payne

    Rich Payne Rivet Counter 1940 Obsessive

    Something I don't understand from that table though for example all the dates it lists as being under a Corps control wouldn't the Division also have been under an Army Control and an Army Group/GHQ.

    The table reflects the chain of Command and shows the next level above the Division and to which it reported. Where no Corps is shown, this is because the Division was directly controlled by a higher formation at that time.
     
  8. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Thanks hugely. Have to admit that Kyt gave me that link by PM a while back, but thanks anyway. Something I don't understand from that table though for example all the dates it lists as being under a Corps control wouldn't the Division also have been under an Army Control and an Army Group/GHQ.
    Dave, we can't do it all for you.
    If you want to know what Army each Corps came under at a certain time, I'm afraid you'll have to look it up.
    Have fun.

    PS. Glad the book arrived OK, was it Royal Mail's superb service again?

    :)
     
  9. DaveWalters

    DaveWalters Junior Member

    Thanks guys, think you slightly misunderstood Owen. I was just after a little clarification on the hierarchy which Rich provided perfectly. Delaforce seems to be clarifying it a bit but it's going to take several reads and many notes before I get what I'm after. Thanks again.
     
  10. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Dave,
    I was pulling yer leg. :)
     
  11. DaveWalters

    DaveWalters Junior Member

    ooooh you little tinker ;-)
     

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