Army List 1944

Discussion in 'Research Material' started by Jedburgh22, Dec 4, 2010.

  1. Jedburgh22

    Jedburgh22 Very Senior Member

  2. Jedburgh22

    Jedburgh22 Very Senior Member

  3. Ron Goldstein

    Ron Goldstein WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    Hi Jed !

    Feel that we ought to point out that the PDF file is 85 Mb in size :)

    Ron
     
  4. bamboo43

    bamboo43 Very Senior Member

    They are large size files, but what a resource to have. I have traced back to 1942 the vast majority of my Chindit 1 fledgling officers.:)
     
  5. Jedburgh22

    Jedburgh22 Very Senior Member

    I'm thinking of investing in a Kindl for Christmas ;-) In the meantime am downloading the files a couple a day and have worked out that a complete 1938-46 would make a nice boxed CD or DVD set
     
  6. Jedburgh22

    Jedburgh22 Very Senior Member

    There are other lists for Allied and Commonwealth Forces on the same site - some nominal rolls for Canadians and Australians as well as US Orbats

    Always nice to find a new (FREE) research and data source
     
  7. Ciar2001

    Ciar2001 Member

    Wow, probably an obvious question is this basically a list of all those serving in the British Army at the time? so if my grandfather went over in September 44 would he be listed?
     
  8. Jedburgh22

    Jedburgh22 Very Senior Member

    The Army List ONLY lists serving and retired officers, the Navy and Air Force also published similar lists
     
  9. bamboo43

    bamboo43 Very Senior Member

    I'm thinking of investing in a Kindl for Christmas ;-) In the meantime am downloading the files a couple a day and have worked out that a complete 1938-46 would make a nice boxed CD or DVD set

    Thats very kind of you, I will forward my request to Santa!;)
     
  10. bamboo43

    bamboo43 Very Senior Member

    Its only when you see lists like these that you realise how quickly some of the young 2/Lieus. were promoted to meet the W/S commission requirements.

    Some Chindit 1 column Commanders and most of the Captains on that trip were very junior officers in England, just months beforehand.
     
  11. Ciar2001

    Ciar2001 Member

    The Army List ONLY lists serving and retired officers, the Navy and Air Force also published similar lists

    gotcha :) thanks for the reply.
     
  12. Richard Lewis

    Richard Lewis Member

    Took ages to download the July 1945 Army list. Parts I & II have both been divided into two, so four downloads at between 80 and 100 MB each, giving a total of over 5300 pages.
    One problem is the contents and index “page” numbers do not refer to the number at the bottom of the page but to a column number at the top of the page. So don’t try putting the Army List’s “page” number in the reader’s “Go to Page” box.
    However, a fascinating document.
    One item which caught my eye was an advertisement for The Royal Army Temperance Association (formed in Agra, 1862). Its object was, " The Promotion of Sobriety in the British Army at home and abroad, through the formation of Branches, whose object is to establish a strong regimental opinion in favour of strict sobriety, uprightness of character and decency of language, in the fear of God."
    It was disbanded in 1958: almost made its centenary!
     
  13. Jedburgh22

    Jedburgh22 Very Senior Member

    I'm sure Ron and sapper were keen members
     
  14. bamboo43

    bamboo43 Very Senior Member

    Took ages to download the July 1945 Army list. Parts I & II have both been divided into two, so four downloads at between 80 and 100 MB each, giving a total of over 5300 pages.
    One problem is the contents and index “page” numbers do not refer to the number at the bottom of the page but to a column number at the top of the page. So don’t try putting the Army List’s “page” number in the reader’s “Go to Page” box.
    However, a fascinating document.
    One item which caught my eye was an advertisement for The Royal Army Temperance Association (formed in Agra, 1862). Its object was, " The Promotion of Sobriety in the British Army at home and abroad, through the formation of Branches, whose object is to establish a strong regimental opinion in favour of strict sobriety, uprightness of character and decency of language, in the fear of God."
    It was disbanded in 1958: almost made its centenary!

    Certainly not compiled and indexed by a researcher thats for sure!:)
     
  15. Jedburgh22

    Jedburgh22 Very Senior Member

    They are digital copies from the Library of Scotland - just the way the reels work out when made into PDFs
     
  16. Ron Goldstein

    Ron Goldstein WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    Richard

    One item which caught my eye was an advertisement for The Royal Army Temperance Association (formed in Agra, 1862). Its object was, " The Promotion of Sobriety in the British Army at home and abroad, through the formation of Branches, whose object is to establish a strong regimental opinion in favour of strict sobriety, uprightness of character and decency of language, in the fear of God."



    Jedburgh22
    I'm sure Ron and sapper were keen members


    As I once said..............
    I'm sure we've all had these moments in life when things have happened to us that are so funny that one has to pinch oneself to believe that the event is really happening.

    I've told this story before (and I'm going to tell it again!) because it's completely true and I still get a kick out of it some sixty odd years after the event.

    The year was 1946 and the place was Trieste.

    Every Sunday evening, a small coterie from my Squadron used to make our way from the barracks at Opicina and descend upon the streets of Trieste.

    We used to see a film, have a bite to eat and then, being of a certain age group, we would settle down to some serious bar crawling.

    We would start at some very prestigious bar, usually with live music being played and the drinks priced accordingly. After a few drinks someone would suggest that we moved on and we would find another bar where the decor was not quite as nice but the drinks were certainly cheaper.

    By the time we were approaching the deadine of the "last truck home" we were drinking at "Mama's".

    Now "Mama's" was rock bottom of it's class. A dingy, soul-less place and the only furniture, apart from a few battered chairs were two huge vats of vino taking up the whole of one side of the bar. The drinks however were so cheap that however broke we were we could still afford them and the bonus was we could even sell part of our clothing to the accomodating barman, usually an undergarment so that we could pass muster at the guard room on our return to Monfalcone.

    Came one particular Sunday and we were all strapped for cash.

    Some bright spark suggested that we start our bar-crawl at Mama's instead of at the end of the evening, the joke was that we didn't know the address and sober we couldn't find the damn place !

    Trust me..... it happened !

    Ron


    I rest my case !

    Ron
     
  17. saintconor

    saintconor Senior Member

    Hi folks, I have a very limited wifi service onboard the vessel which will not allow me to download the file. I was wondering if anyone could have a look for Lionel Arthur David Borrett, former RQMS East Surrey Regiment, who received an emergency commision as 2 Lt (305898) on the 6th December 1943.

    Thanks,

    Conor
     
  18. saintconor

    saintconor Senior Member

    Hi folks, I have a very limited wifi service onboard the vessel which will not allow me to download the file. I was wondering if anyone could have a look for Lionel Arthur David Borrett, former RQMS East Surrey Regiment, who received an emergency commision as 2 Lt (305898) on the 6th December 1943.

    Thanks,

    Conor
     
  19. Joe Brown

    Joe Brown WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    Jed: It would be a great aide in remembering names . . . I do recall faces, names often elude me! Joe
     
  20. Richard Lewis

    Richard Lewis Member

    Hello Conor,

    The Army List of July 1945 shows Borrett as a W/Lt still in the East Surrey Regiment. He is listed in the botton left hand corner in the attachment. As you probably have seen, a search of the London Gazette only comes up with the details of his commissioning.

    Regards,

    Richard
     

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