East Riding Yeomanry

Discussion in 'User Introductions' started by Son of Ken Zebedee, Jan 11, 2016.

  1. Hello everyone. Yes I really am the son of Ken (Kenneth) Zebedee.

    Does anyone on here remember him, serve with him. I would like to find out a much as possible about his time in the ERY and the RAC.

    Your help, tips and information will be gladly recieved

    Thank you all.
     
  2. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot Patron 1940 Obsessive

    Hi

    Do you know which regiment of the ERY he was with? Off the top of my head there were two regiments. Also what dates are you interested in?
     
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  3. ritsonvaljos

    ritsonvaljos Senior Member

    If your father served with the E.R.Y. at any time during WW2 there is an excellent book you could try and get hold of to read:

    "Forrard: The Story of the East Riding Yeomanry" by Paul Mace with Ted Wright (2001)
    Paperback published by Leo Cooper, 232 pages.

    It is partly based on the WW2 War Diaries, personal recollections of some of those who served with the E.R.Y. during the war and an earlier book by Victor Ellison, "Europe Revisited"

    There was a previous enquiry on this forum a few months ago about the E.R.Y. in WW2:

    http://ww2talk.com/forums/topic/59362-east-riding-yeomanry-d-day-embarkation/
     
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  4. Thank you so much for your replies.

    Sadly I have no information on which of the Regiments my Dad was in. I have read the book 'Forrard'.

    My Dad volunteered in 1944 just after his 19th birthday (12/02/1944).

    I am attaching a couple photo's.

    momdad01032.jpg This My Dad (on The right) and I presume his friend (on the left). No Regiment or other markings.

    img002.jpg This my Dad with his ERY markings.

    img003.jpg This is another friend with cap badge and buttons I cannot make out.

    I have another picture of Dad with collar badges (cant locate, yet) from a cavalry/lancer regiment.

    I have in my possession his RAC cap badge and a pair of yellow leather gauntlets. I also have the postcards of Hamm (North Rhine-Westphalia).

    I hope this will give something more to help you help me.

    Thanks again everyone.
     
  5. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot Patron 1940 Obsessive

    I've just done a quick bit of looking and he would have been 1 East Riding Yeomanry, the 2nd was converted to infantry in June 1940.
     
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  6. SDP

    SDP Incurable Cometoholic

    Have you requested a copy of his Service Records? They will contain much of the information you need.

    You could also contact the Bovington Tank Museum Library for a copy of his RAC Tracer Card. This is effectively a cut down version of the Service Records. I think they charge £5 for the privilege but remember they are a charity and need to raise well-deserved funds.
     
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  7. ritsonvaljos

    ritsonvaljos Senior Member

    In the photograph of your Dad on his own he is definitely wearing the East Riding Yeomanry insignia (a running fox above a scroll with "Forrard" written on it).

    You could do with obtaining a copy of your Dad's service record, as previously suggested, which would indicate dates he was posted to different regiments, when he served overseas, etc. If you have his service / pay book this should contain much the same information. This would eliminate any guess work specifically relating to your father.

    As you will have read in the book "Forrard", the remnant of the E.R.Y. serving in N.W. Europe was disbanded on 7 March 1946. Those still serving with the E.R.Y. were posted to the 3 / 4 County of London Yeomanry so your Dad may have served with this regiment during 1946 / 1947, unless he had been previously posted elsewhere.
     
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  8. Historic Steve

    Historic Steve Researching 21 Army Group/BAOR post VE day

    Can help with locations post 8 May 45 from joint research with Bluebell Minor from original documentation

    4th Armoured Brigade
    4 Jun 45 – 1st East Riding Yeomanry RAC from Breda Holland
    Laboe north-east of Kiel – to Plön – to Utersen north-east of Hamburg – to Probsteierhagen east of Kiel
    14 Feb 46 – suspended animation order received
    1 Mar 46 – disbanded

    31st Armoured Brigade
    28 Feb 46 – 3rd/4th County of London Yeomanry (Sharpshooters) RAC from 4th Armoured Brigade
    Caterham Barracks formally Schloss Gottorf Schleswig
    10 Mar 46 – 31st Armoured Brigade redesignated 4th Armoured Brigade
    31 Mar 46 – to Newcastle Barracks formally Artillerie Kaserne Hamm
    15 Jul 46 – to Wyvern Barracks formally Cavalry Kaserne Lüneburg relieved by 5th Royal Tank Regiment
    30 Sep 46 – suspended animation relieved by 2nd Royal Tank Regiment from Italy

    War Diary here http://www.warlinks.com/armour/3_cly/3cly_46.php

    Please send a PM with your email address has have a copy of the 3/4 CLY regimental journal for this period
     
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  9. WOW! So much information and feed back. Thanks to to you all.

    Going to try Bovington Tank Museum Library for a copy of his RAC Tracer Card - is this done online or via visiting?

    Then going to apply for his service records. - just downloaded forms - can't believe they don't have electronic payments. I will have to ask family members if any of them still have cheque books.

    Keep you all informed of progress.

    Thanks again.

    Victor.
     
  10. SDP

    SDP Incurable Cometoholic

    Victor

    You just need to phone the Tank Museum Library. You will need his full name and, possibly, a little more information such as his Service Number if you have it or his date of birth. Having said that, with a surname like that, it should be an easy task for them to find his card from the many thousands they have!

    They are incredibly helpful and, in my case, possibly the best £5 I've ever spent. I was fortunate in that I was able to actually visit the Library but I understand from others that all is OK with a simple phone call. The amount of detail on the Tracer Card varies but 'nothing ventured, nothing gained'......and it's only a fiver anyway!
     
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  11. Had an RAC Tracer Card for my Dad. Things I never knew!

    Thanks to you all

    14429290 Kenneth Ernest Zebedee - Tracer Card (b).jpg
    14429290 Kenneth Ernest Zebedee - Tracer Card (a).jpg
     
  12. Historic Steve

    Historic Steve Researching 21 Army Group/BAOR post VE day

    Clearly he transferred again on the suspended animation of 3rd/4th County of London Yeomanry (Sharpshooters) RAC and remaining with the 4th Armoured Brigade

    1 Oct 46 – 7th Queen’s Own Hussars RAC from Italy to Bournemouth Barracks formally Cavalry Kaserne Soltau relieving 7th Royal Tank Regiment – to UK 13 Dec 47
     
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  13. SDP

    SDP Incurable Cometoholic

    Victor

    Quick question. Is his name and the first entry in his own handwriting? Reason I ask is that those details on my dads Tracer Card appear to be in his handwriting.
     
  14. SDP. Unable to say if it's my Dad's. I am going to look through family bits and pieces to see if I can find an answer for you.

    Historic Steve. How did you work that out, even with your answer in front of me I can't understand what all that 'Army Speak' is about. Thanks for your help.
     
  15. ritsonvaljos

    ritsonvaljos Senior Member

    With the details on this card you have a reasonable summary of your father's wartime service, Victor.

    I notice he was enlisted in July of 1943, a little earlier than you were thinking. The 58th Training Regiment was a "Young Soldiers" regiment for the Royal Armoured Corps.
     
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  16. SDP - Not my Fathers writing.
     
  17. I hope this is the right place for these questions,

    From the RAC Tracer Cards you can see my Dad was 'attached', moved to other units. Would his badges have changed according to the unit? I have looked at badges for all the units mentioned - I only have the ERY and RAC badges - nothing for the 7 Hussars or 3/4 C of L.
    I mentioned in an earlier post that I have a photograph somewhere with a collar badge that shows crossed lances, nothing like either the Hussars or 3/4 C of L.

    If he was entitled to wear any off these badges, which should I obtain? particular confused over 3/4 City of London, some of them have either 3 with 'south africa' 1900-1902 on them, the other has 4 and 'sharpshooters'. I have not seen a 3/4 City of London badge.


    6/3/46

    37 ORs from East Riding Yeomanry posted to 3/4th CLY.

    I have tried searching this site for both 7 Hussars and 3/4 City of London. I am told nothing found. Help.

    Thanks.

    Victor.
     

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