George Llewellyn JONES

Hi Everyone,
I don't know if I am on the right Forum, but I am desparately looking for a clue to a this Serviceman - he is the only possible prospect for a George L. JONES who is remembered on the Hawarden WW2 War Memorial.

I found this one:-
Commonwealth War Graves Commission
Private
JONES, G L (Possible? - George Llewellyn)
Service Number 1828252
Died 21/10/1946
Aged 30
The Queen's Royal Regiment (West Surrey)

Husband of Roma Jones, of Gloucester.

Buried at GLOUCESTER OLD CEMETERY
Location: Gloucestershire, United Kingdom
Number of casualties: 264
Cemetery/memorial reference: War Graves Plot B. Grave 10077.

If this is him, he enlisted on the 10th of July 1941.

I found this info, but whether it relates to 'Our' G.L. JONES, I don't know.
George was born in 1916 if he was 30 when he died.

FREE BMD
Deaths Dec 1946 (>99%)
Jones George 30 Gloucester C. 7b 407

Possible marriage of George L JONES & Roma SMITH:-

FREE BMD
Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page
Marriages Sep 1945 (>99%)
Jones George L Smith Gloucester C. 6a 1098
Smith Roma Jones Gloucester C. 6a 1098

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Is this G.L. JONES on the 1939 Register?

1939 Register (Taken on the 29th September 1939)
Jones Household (3 People)
Kendricks Field,Fixed Caravan Laurels Ferry Lane , Hawarden R.D., Flintshire, Wales
George Jones 16 Dec 1888 Male Master Tailor Married 12 1
Margaret J Jones 12 Oct 1889 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 12 2
George L Jones 13 May 1913 Male Tailor Single 12 3

I apologise if I have asked for help with this before, but any information would be greatly appreciated.
Kindest regards,
Mavis Williams

 

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Thank you CL1, I saw that on the CWGC website on his page, but it wouldn't let me download or save, so thanks so much. I need to connect him to Flintshire at least, if not Hawarden. I will keep on looking, I have been trying off and on for years.
Thanks again, Mavis

 

Mavis have you contacted CWGC
Ask if they have full name
Ask if they have other detail to tie him to area he was born in.

try below
Contact Cemetery and crematorium services - Gloucester City Council

 

I'm getting Gloucester for this chap.

 

I'm gonna go for this chap Mavis.
GUNNER GWILLYM LLOYD JONES
Service Number: 1133646
Regiment & Unit/Ship
Royal Artillery
111 Field Regt.
Date of Death
Died 20 April 1943
Age 20 years old
Buried or commemorated at
ENFIDAVILLE WAR CEMETERY
VII. A. 17.
Tunisia

• Country of ServiceUnited Kingdom
• Additional Info Son of Joseph and Hannah Louisa Jones, of Bagillt, Flintshire.
• Personal Inscription BEAUTIFUL MEMORIES A SMILING FACE A BROKEN LINK WE'LL NEVER REPLACE

Name Gwilym L Jones
Gender Male
Marital Status Single
Birth Date 20 Nov 1922
Residence Date 1939
Address Isfryn
Residence Place Flint, Flintshire, Wales
Occupation Artificial Silkworker
Line Number 44
Schedule Number 164
Sub Schedule Number 3
Enumeration District Zmcl
Borough Flint
Registration district 619/3
Inferred Father Joseph Jones
Inferred Mother Hannah L Jones

 

Gnr Gwillym Lloyd Jones (unknown-1943) - Find a.....

 

Thank you CL1 and Deacs, I think that you are right about George Llewellyn coming from Gloucester, cannot see any connection to Hawarden, Deeside, Flintshire and Gwilym Lloyd Jones could be a better chance of being, perhaps, the better possibility.
I will try the CWGC and see if they have anymore iinformation.
Happy New Year, by the way and thanks again.

 

Hi Mavis

Gwilliam Jones looks like a good shout.

I don't have the time to post it at moment, but I found a report of George Llewlyn Jones's funeral in the British Newspaper Archive Index, which names his widow, parents & sisters. This ties up with an entry in the 1939 Register for High Street, Gloucester where he is living with his parents & sisters. Nothing found links him to North Wales/Cheshire.

There is a death registration for George L. Jones (the tailor) born 1913 in the 1980's at a reg dist just outside Rhyl, and his baptism is also online.

Hope to post details tomorrow.

Travers

 

Hi

1828252 JONES, George LLewllyn
As promised this data I think clears him as the man on your memorial. He was born in Gloucester in 1916, lives there in 1939 & marries there post war & I have

From the Gloucester Citizen 24 Oct 1946
. DEATH* JONES —October 21, George Llewellyn, eldest son of Mr. and Mrs. 8. Jones. 30. High St., Gloucester, and loving husband of Roma (nee Smith), passed away after short Illness at City General Hospital. Gloucester, aged 30 years. Faneral servicc Friday at ...

From the Gloucester Citizen 29 Oct 1946
... St. Paul s Church, the Rev C Simpson officiating The interment followed at the Cemetery. The principal mourners were: Mrs. Roma Jones (widow), Mr. and Mrs. S. Jones (father and mother), Mr. and Mrs. W. Jones (brother and slsCer-ln-law). Misses Iris, Doris ...
Results for 'roma' | Between 1st Oct 1946 and 31st Oct 1946 | South West, England | Location | British Newspaper Archive

In another death announcement in the papers his widow thanks staff at Gloucester Military Hospital.

1939 Register - 30 High Street, Gloucester

Image courtesy of ancestry.co.uk

For completeness and for anyone visiting this post in future for this soldier his service number confirms that he enlisted in the Royal Artillery on 10 July 1941. In early 1946 he transferred from the Royal Fusiliers to the Queens Royal West Surrey Regiment. The QRWSR Register of Transfers In has a pencil note saying 2/5th. If this refers to him being posted to that battalion of the regiment they were in Italy when the Germans surrendered and until disbandment in May 1946 served at Venice & then Trieste.
5th Bn The Queen’s Royal Regiment

Travers

 

Hi

George L JONES - born 1913 - living 1939 at Kendricks Field, Hawarden RD

This is his possible baptism at Newcastle Emlyn, Carmarthen & Cardiganshire in 1913

and probable death registration

Name George Leslie Jones
Death Age 75
Birth Date 15 May 1913
Registration Date Jan 1989
Registration district Rhuddlan
Inferred County Clwyd
Volume 24
Page 675

Travers

 

Thank you Travers, you always go the extra mile! I have been through the Hawarden Grammar School Admissions Register and thought I had found a few possibles, but only came up, in the end, with George Jones, born 29th December 1912, Albert Place Connah's Quay, he entered the school on the 29th of September 1924, but he returned to his Elementary School on the 24th of July 1925 and there is a note to say he was deceased. His father was a Boat engineer. and the note 'Dec'd' may have meant his father, but I know that the school did note when a pupil died. Perhaps that was why he went back to Elementary School.
Thank you once again for your help, the negatives are important, as they help eliminate.
Regards,
Mavis

 

Gunner Gwillym LLoyd JONES

He gets a mention in the index of the British Newspaper Archive:

.. children and struck a telegraph post. In April her husband. Guardsman Ferciyal Lloyd, was killed in action in Tunisia, and three weeks later her nephew. Gunner Gwillym Lloyd Jones, of Bagillt, died of wounds in Tunisia. ..
Liverpool Echo 03 July 1943.
Results for 'gwillym lloyd jones' | British Newspaper Archive

The 1939-1945 Army Roll of Honour gives the additional information that GwIllym was born & resided in Flintshire.

There is a Gwillym Lloyd JONES on the Bagillit War Memorial that Clwyd Family History Society have recorded as the person being researched here.
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At nearby Holywell both Guardsman Percival LLOYD & an unidentified Gwilym JONES are recorded.
Holywell | Clwyd Family History

Travers

 

I have relooked at the War Memorial and his first name is George then initial L. JONES, and Bagillt is too far away from here I would think, although Iknow people moved through the years.
Thank you so much Travers, you are always there to help and I must thank you for the past help you have given me.
Kindest regards, Mavis