Leutnant Lofflers Last Victim

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  1. ecalpald

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  2. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    I dont have enough access - I am assuming he was German

    Germany, Military Killed in Action, 1939-1948 results for Loeffler
    Sorry those died in 1945

    There are 90 results for those that died in 1944, but I cant refine further by date as I dont have access


    Source Information
    Ancestry.com. Germany, Military Killed in Action, 1939-1948 [database on-line]. Lehi, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2020.
    Original data: Kartei der Verlust- und Grabmeldungen gefallener deutscher Soldaten 1939-1945 (-1948), Bundesarchiv B 563-2 Kartei. Berlin, Deutschland: Deutsches Bundesarchiv.

    Perhaps one of our German or German based members have access to the above

    I have been able I think to narrow it down as died in Italy to:

    Harold Loeffler date location dd mm 1944 info

    Rolf Löffler date location dd mm 1944 info

    Friedr Löffler date location dd mm 1944 info
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  3. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    From family trees - other possibles

    Gustav Löffler
    Birth 26 Jul 1923 Zahling, Aichach-Friedberg, Bayern, Germany
    Death 21 Oct 1944 Borgo, Ascoli Piceno, Marche, Italy

    Gustav Loeffler
    Birth 26 Jul 1923 Zahling, Jennersdorf, Burgenland, Austria
    Death 21 Oct 1944 Italy

    But I guess these dates are too late for your man

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  4. Gary Tankard

    Gary Tankard Well-Known Member

    There's nothing like seems to corresponds to any combination or name, rank, unit or location - either in the Ancestry data set or in the Volksbund site.
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  5. ecalpald

    ecalpald Chick LaPlace

    This gun position is mentioned in the following article
    Breaching The Hitler Line: Army, Part 75 - Legion Magazine

    "The Todt organization, using drafts of Italian labourers, had built a series of positions protected by an anti-tank ditch, barbed wire and minefields. In addition to standard field works, the Hitler Line included eight positions manned by specially trained troops employing the 75-mm gun of a Panther tank turret bricked into the ground. Each post was supported by a medium machine-gun, rocket projector and a well-camouflaged troop of self-propelled guns (SPs)."
  6. Gary Tankard

    Gary Tankard Well-Known Member

    There is a Wachtmeister Fritz Löffler from 4./ Werfer Regiment 56, killed at Pontecorvo on 23rd May 1944 but as I said above this doesn't match on the rank or unit. He was also born in 1909 so the age in the tale doesn't match either.

    We would have to get the original 1 Canadian Corps Intelligence summary to see if it expands on the original source.
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  7. ecalpald

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    Hi Gary
    The 1st Canadian Corps Intel Summary of 30 May 1944 does not elaborate further on this incident. This report can be viewed at
    War diaries : T-7113 - Image 987 - Héritage (canadiana.ca)
    Thanks for looking. I will browse through the T-7113 archive to see if 4./ Werfer Regiment 56 is mentioned in intel reports.
  8. Gary Tankard

    Gary Tankard Well-Known Member

    Another piece of info - Fritz Löffler was killed by a shell splinter to his back and was buried in Fiuggi.
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  9. ecalpald

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  10. ltdan

    ltdan Nietenzähler

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  11. ltdan

    ltdan Nietenzähler

    I assume that this meant the mobile Panther turrets from the 15 PG Div Mobile Turret Coy: Factually transportable bunkers
    I also did not know until today - you never stop learning!
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  12. ropey

    ropey Member

    I found this during the research for our book and dismissed it as a work of fiction. How would the author have know the details? I think he has taken some basic facts - a body, a destroyed PT - and told a story. Btw, the PT is pictured in our book (The Battles for Monte Cassino: Then and Now) on p351.

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