Looking for birth details on this RAF lad!

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  1. spidge

    spidge RAAF RESEARCHER

    I have of late proved two others were born in Australian however no luck with this one.

    RAF 39403 (220sq) Flying Officer Charles Francis Lionel Tulloch.

    I do have a current Ancestry account however I am unable to get past his War Death.

    CWGC details show Father as Charles and Mother as Blanche F.N.

    Cheers

    Geoff
     
  2. 51highland

    51highland Very Senior Member

    Strange, they give his parents address as Bournemouth Hampshire, but can find no trace of them. Only found a Blanche Florence Nellie Tulloch as born 1876 and dying 1975 in Hove Sussex.
     
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  3. harkness

    harkness Well-Known Member

    Not much help, but:

    1939 REGISTER
    24 Desley Hall, Knyveton Road, Bournemouth C.B., Hampshire
    Name - DOB - Occupation - Marital status
    Edith Robertson - 28 Nov 1886 - Hotelier - Widowed
    Beatrice Baynes - 11 Sep 1888 - Hotelier - Single
    Margarete Lowenberg - 17 Jan 1884 - Private Means - Single
    John Henry Baynes - 11 Dec 1856 - Retail Hatter (Retired) - Married
    Maria Baynes - 03 May 1863 - Incapacitated - Married
    Blanche F N Tulloch - 21 Sep 1876 - Private Means - Widowed

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  4. harkness

    harkness Well-Known Member

    But this IS:

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  5. harkness

    harkness Well-Known Member

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  6. harkness

    harkness Well-Known Member

    They were in OZ much earlier::
    Victoria - 1913 - Melbourne - Latrobe

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  7. harkness

    harkness Well-Known Member

    Name: Florence Blanche Nellie Bower
    Birth Date: 21 Sep 1876
    Baptism Date: 22 Apr 1877
    Baptism Place: Colney-St. Peter, Hertford, England
    Father: Harold Francis Mosely Bower
    Mother: Ellen
     
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  8. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery Patron

    from my photo collection

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    Flying Officer TULLOCH, CHARLES FRANCIS LIONEL
    Service Number 39403

    Died 15/04/1940

    Aged 24

    220 Sqdn.
    Royal Air Force

    Son of Charles and Blanche F. N. Tulloch, of Bournemouth, Hampshire.
    Commemorated at RUNNYMEDE MEMORIAL

    Location: Surrey, United Kingdom
    Number of casualties: 20275

    Cemetery/memorial reference: Panel 6.
     
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  9. KevinBattle

    KevinBattle Senior Member

    Geoff
    You had some/most of this before Flying Officer CHARLES FRANCIS LIONEL TULLOCH,39403, 220 Sqdn., Royal Air Force
    Hudson shot down by Me110 etc etc

    His DoB appears to be 1916 ish and as he's shown on the passenger list TO Australia he may have been born in the UK (bearing in mind that ALL Australians showed they were of British origin at that time....) and came back in 1935 which is presumably when he thought of joining the RAF.

    I can't find any Australian War records for either his father or him, but there were other Tullochs in Melbourne etc, so perhaps they went out to try their luck?
     
  10. amberdog45

    amberdog45 Senior Member

  11. wibs12

    wibs12 Patron Patron

    Think this is your man Geoff...... copy of record card from the GB Royal Aero Club Aviators Certificates index.....gives his specific date of birth as 3rd Jan 1916 and place of birth as Sydney, Australia.... but gives nationality as British?

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  12. spidge

    spidge RAAF RESEARCHER

    Thanks 51 Highland,

    You would think that this was her.

    (Forgot to press enter last night):lol:
     
  13. spidge

    spidge RAAF RESEARCHER

  14. spidge

    spidge RAAF RESEARCHER

    Thanks Wib12,

    Being born in Australia fits my criteria.

    Cheers

    Geoff
     
  15. BFBSM

    BFBSM Very Senior Member

    I have just found a record on Ancestry, in the Passenger Lists for a Master C F Tulloch travelling from London, England with his parents a Mr C Tulloch and Mrs B Tulloch in 1920. https://www.ancestry.com.au/interac...79129?backurl=&ssrc=&backlabel=Return&bm=true. The list when you get a chance to look at it, indicates this Master C F Tulloch was born in about 1916, he is four years old.

    I also searched Start searching NSW family history, for a birth record in 1916, none came up for a Charles Tulloch.

    Should I find anything else I shall let you know.

    Mark

    NOTE: I add the image of the record here: 40610_B000923-00355.jpg
     
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  16. Waddell

    Waddell Well-Known Member

    Spidge,

    This is from the births section of the Sydney Morning Herald, 12th February 1916.

    Scott

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  17. spidge

    spidge RAAF RESEARCHER

    Hi Kevin,

    I tried to bring this up as I had no info on my spreadsheet. I felt I had completed his Bio previously but could not find it for the life of me.

    I keyed this in today and all come up (strange)??

    However a few things have come to light and I can now prove he was born in Australian in 1916 returned to England for a short time when he was 4yo then returned to Australia. He returned to England with his "mother" after his father died in Australia 1935.

    Cheers

    Geoff
     
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  18. KevinBattle

    KevinBattle Senior Member

    Is there some doubt as to Florence being his mother? The "Ellen" in harkness's post #7 could be the "proper" Christian name for "Nellie"....
    I see she almost made it to 100, no wonder they call much of the South Coast "God's Waiting Room"!!!
     
  19. spidge

    spidge RAAF RESEARCHER

    Kevin.

    Birth 3rd January 1916
    The birth notice in Australia reads "at Glen Garry Private Hospital, Mosman - "The wife" of Charles Tulloch a son!!!!!!


    They departed for Sydney as a family nn 13 April 1920 however no info on when they returned to England as a family

    Then to England (When?? (1916-1920????+

    They departed Australia for England in 1935 ??? (after death of Father Charles)

    BUT, when did they return to England between his birth and being a four year old????????

    Anybody????

    Cheers and appreciated

    Geoff
     
    Last edited: Dec 11, 2019
  20. BFBSM

    BFBSM Very Senior Member

    I have three Tullochs arriving in England on 16 January 1935.

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