New Zealand Army War Diaries

Discussion in 'New Zealand' started by Roddy1011, Jul 7, 2012.

  1. Roddy1011

    Roddy1011 Senior Member

    Hi to all -

    Does anyone have copies of New Zealand Armoured Regiment War Diaries ?

    Roddy
     
  2. andy007

    andy007 Senior Member

  3. BFBSM

    BFBSM Very Senior Member

  4. Roddy1011

    Roddy1011 Senior Member

    Thanks for the suggestions...

    I have originals of all three Armoured Regt histories and have taken a decko at the NA Files...the problem with the latter is that they are all the '3rd copies' and miss all the annexes etc. What I am after are details of the following:

    A. The NZ armd veh numbering system(s)
    B. The veh census numbers for the vehs with 4 Armd Bde
    C. Any details of census numbers for carriers, OP tanks and the like.

    Geoff Plowman and Dick Taylor have been excellent sources over the years but - quite rightly - do not want to reveal all their sources...

    Need to do the same for S African vehs as well...

    Canada is much more easy with their International Lending Service - I have now seem most of their relevent war diaries...and have one hell of a job to get everything databased.

    Many thanks to all

    Roddy
     
  5. BFBSM

    BFBSM Very Senior Member

    Thanks for the suggestions...

    I have originals of all three Armoured Regt histories and have taken a decko at the NA Files...the problem with the latter is that they are all the '3rd copies' and miss all the annexes etc.

    Many thanks to all

    Roddy

    Fair enough. :)

    Good luck with your search.

    Mark
     
  6. andy007

    andy007 Senior Member

  7. ropey

    ropey Member

    It is indeed the NZ National Archives you want Roddy, though you will find the costs of remote searches prohibitive. The online documents mentioned above are the Official War Histories. The War Diaries (and other docs) are not digitised so you would need to visit in person or pay for a researcher to get access. If you are not in NZ, perhaps it's time you visited. :D

    BTW it is Jeff Plowman, not Geoff: my co-author on The Battles for Monte Cassino: Then and now.
     
  8. enzus59

    enzus59 Member

    Hi to all.

    I am seaching 4th NZ Bde, 19th & 20th NZ Bn., 4th & 5th Fd. Rgt. War Diaries [1942] but i am not able to find something on NZ National Archives or on WO179. Can you give me an help?
    Thanks in advance.
    Enzus
     
  9. BFBSM

    BFBSM Very Senior Member

    Enzus,

    The unit diaries are detailed as below:

    Unit Diaries
    The unit diaries of the 2nd New Zealand Expeditionary Force (2 NZEF) were collected systematically to provide material for later histories of New Zealand’s efforts in the Second World War.

    Unit Diaries from the war are held at Archives New Zealand Wellington under Unit name. A list in the Finding Aids [WAII] gives the unit diaries and dates. Each individual diary part/file usually covers a calendar month. A number of diaries are available on microfilm.
    • Middle East Unit Diaries [WAII 1 DA 1-397]
    • Pacific Unit Diaries [WAII 1 DAZ 1-543]
    • Medical and Hospital Unit Diaries (also other material) [WAII 4]

    (War - Archives New Zealand. Te Rua Mahara o te Kāwanatanga)

    They aren't available online, you will need to get a NZ member or a researcher to copy them. Or pay the NZ Archives to copy them for you.

    Mark
     
  10. enzus59

    enzus59 Member

    Hi Mark,

    thanks so much for your big help. I found the pdf files about NZ WD list!! Now i need to understand how ask a copy to NZ Archives or find a reasearcher. NZ is too far ... :)

    Enzus
     
  11. BFBSM

    BFBSM Very Senior Member

  12. Roddy1011

    Roddy1011 Senior Member

    Ropey -

    Thanks...yes of course Jeff - knew that especially as I have just bought a copy of your Monte Cassino tome - After the Battle standards are still very high - excellent work...

    Roddy
     
  13. ropey

    ropey Member

    Hi Mark,

    Now i need to understand how ask a copy to NZ Archives or find a reasearcher. NZ is too far ... :)

    Enzus

    I come from there and haven't found a reasonably priced researcher, especially with current exchange rates! Using a pro or an archivist will cost you a bomb if you only have a general interest, even if it is only in that named list of units. If I was at home I would happily help out if I could get there myself, but I now live in the UK... :unsure:
     
  14. BFBSM

    BFBSM Very Senior Member

    I come from there and haven't found a reasonably priced researcher, especially with current exchange rates! Using a pro or an archivist will cost you a bomb if you only have a general interest, even if it is only in that named list of units. If I was at home I would happily help out if I could get there myself, but I now live in the UK... :unsure:

    o_O

    Got any relo's that would help??? :D

    Mark
     
  15. andy007

    andy007 Senior Member

    I come from there and haven't found a reasonably priced researcher, especially with current exchange rates! Using a pro or an archivist will cost you a bomb if you only have a general interest, even if it is only in that named list of units. If I was at home I would happily help out if I could get there myself, but I now live in the UK... :unsure:

    Ropey,
    I am in Wellington and am happy to help if I can. Unfortunately I work during the week so can only get down to the archives at lunch for a short period of time. Due to that as well I can't do general research as such but am happy to copy/take photo of the records you are after. Feel free to PM me :)
     
  16. ropey

    ropey Member

    Ropey,
    I am in Wellington and am happy to help if I can. Unfortunately I work during the week so can only get down to the archives at lunch for a short period of time. Due to that as well I can't do general research as such but am happy to copy/take photo of the records you are after. Feel free to PM me :)

    I just might take you up on that in future - I have some work on Greece to be done. My daughter's boyfriend was helping out but they broke up. Sob.
     
  17. andy007

    andy007 Senior Member

    No worries, I have a bit of interest in the Greece/Crete campaign so might even be something I am after.
     
  18. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Saw a request for info on ww2f about 6th Fd Regt NZEF in Italy, I was going to suggest the war diary but I cant find one .
    All I can find on British TNA website is one from 1941.
    Where are all the NZ war diaries ?
     
  19. Charley Fortnum

    Charley Fortnum Dreaming of Red Eagles

    In New Zealand - look upthread.

    And there's one NZ War Diary I really want to see, too (25 Battalion at Cassino) - surely there's a Kiwi out there who can smell the killing to be made.

    It must be said that their official histories are superb, but I've never even seen one of their diaries.
     
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  20. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Tried that , can't find any reference numbers for 6 Fd Regt RNZA.
     

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