SBS Nominal Rolls/Army Books do they exist?

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  1. BLyon82

    BLyon82 Member

    I’ve been researching the SBS in WW2 for awhile now and over the years I’ve amassed a number of War Office diaries and one thing I’ve noticed is the lack of records relating to enlisted men.

    Whilst many of the diaries cover the Command Chain and Officers in great detail and men due to return the unit from either hospital or leave there is noting relating the others ranks bar a unit strength tally broken down by rank, I guess my question is does such a document exist either as a nominal roll or more traditional regimental Army Book and where would it be found?

    Having met personnel from the modern incarnation of the SBS and having asked them they were unaware of the existence of regimental archive akin to the SAS archive seen on the SAS Rogue Warriors documentary listing personnel and operations, if anyone is aware of such a resource I’d be grateful if they could steer me in the right direction
     
  2. seaforth

    seaforth Junior Member

    As far as I am aware SBS records held by the SBS Association were amalgamated with SAS records held in the archives of the SAS Regimental Association along with LRDG records sometime in the 2000s.
    Somewhere I have a partial list of men waiting posting on disbandment in 1945.
    Alan.
     
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  3. BLyon82

    BLyon82 Member

    Hi Alan,

    Thanks for the information, I’ll make an inquiry with the SAS Association, with would it be possible to have a look at that list?
     
  4. seaforth

    seaforth Junior Member

    Hope this will be of some use to you.

    Alan.
     

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  5. wtid45

    wtid45 Very Senior Member

  6. BLyon82

    BLyon82 Member

    Hi Alan,

    That’s a great resource, can I ask where the nominal roll came from, is it exhaustive?
     
  7. seaforth

    seaforth Junior Member

    Sorry for the lateness of this reply as I am currently in hospital but as far as I remember the PDF was compiled from various sources but I would dare say many names are still missing.
    Alan
     
  8. BLyon82

    BLyon82 Member

    No problem Alan, hope your ok and are on the mend

    Ben
     
  9. Ian Kilgour

    Ian Kilgour Active Member

    Hi Alan,

    Do you know what date is the NA WO218 Nominal Roll ?


    Best wishes,

    Ian
     
  10. davidbfpo

    davidbfpo Patron Patron

    Ian,

    Alan rarely logs in, I suggest a PM might work.
     
  11. JimHerriot

    JimHerriot Ready for Anything

    Hello Ian,

    The nominal roll (image) within post #4 of Alan (Seaforth) is dated "1/43" at the top so January '43.

    It's from TNA Kew file WO 218/97, which covers the periods January - February 1942 and February - May 1943, so it's likely to have come from the latter period covered by the file.

    1 Special Air Service (1 S.A.S. Regt) including 1 Special Boat Section. Raiding Forces... | The National Archives

    For the pdf "roll" as it says "1943 - 1945" I would think war's end, prior to disbandment ( a cross reference search of name(s) on the list with any name matching CWGC entries would likely give an approximate date to the "roll". I've not checked yet but I'll have a look shortly).

    Kind regards, always,

    Jim.

    EDIT; UPDATE: For the pdf I now think most likely a post-war compilation (and as Alan/Seaforth has said in his post #7, from various sources). Most of the SBS wartime casualties killed/died are included, but a few names are missing.
     
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  12. Ian Kilgour

    Ian Kilgour Active Member

    Thanks Jim,

    I recognised a few names in #4. My thoughts re #7 were that Alan had compiled himself.

    I'm not sure if Alan and BLyon82 are still on the forum ?


    Cheers Ian
     
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  13. davidbfpo

    davidbfpo Patron Patron

    Ian,

    If you hover over their avatar it will show you when they last logged in. Alan was April 2024 and BLyon July 2022. Contact via a PM might work.
     
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  14. Ian Kilgour

    Ian Kilgour Active Member

    Hi "Davidbfpo",

    Many thanks.

    Cheers Ian
     
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