The youngest deaths of the RAAF - 18 year olds!

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  1. spidge

    spidge RAAF RESEARCHER

    Of the 74 deaths of RAAF 18 year olds that occurred during ww2, 68 were, except for a few, due to "Accidental" causes in Australia. Aircraft accidents etc.

    Two were killed in New Guinea - One of whom was killed 11/9/1945 after the Japanese surrender.

    One is listed on the Alamein Memorial.

    Another was a Flight Sergeant buried at Harrogate Stonefall Cemetery in Yorkshire.

    Sgt FREDERICK AGNEW VANCE M. DRUMMOND is buried at the Dyce Old Churchyard in Aberdeenshire.
    Sgt Drummond was killed when Spitfire R6619 of 111 Sq, based at RAF Dyce, crashed near Aberdeen, after colliding with Spitfire X4931 of the same squadron.


    Pilot Officer Arthur Francis Emery (DFC) (Navigator) 460sq was shot down over Germany on his 33rd mission which is tragic. Lancaster PB567 was shot down, he managed to escape but was shot near the border.

    DRUMMOND, FREDERICK AGNEW VANCE M.
    Sergeant
    402000
    111sq
    8/05/1941
    18
    RAAF
    Australian
    Grave 11.
    DYCE OLD CHURCHYARD
    UK
    Aberdeenshire

    EMERY, ARTHUR FRANCIS (DFC)
    Pilot Officer
    424263
    460sq
    31/10/1944
    18
    RAAF
    Australian
    2. K. 15.
    RHEINBERG WAR CEMETERY
    Germany
    Kamp Lintfort, Nordrhein-Westfal

    HASLAM, ALBERT JOHN
    Aircraftman 1st Class
    159583
    RAAF
    Northern Command Port Moresby
    11/09/1945
    18
    RAAF
    Australian
    Panel 10.
    PORT MORESBY MEMORIAL
    Papua New Guinea
    Port Moresby

    JORDAN, AIDAN
    Flight Sergeant
    429663
    77sq
    8/06/1944
    18
    RAAF
    Australian
    Sec. B. Row E. Grave 16.
    HARROGATE (STONEFALL) CEMETERY
    UK
    Yorkshire

    ROSE, LEONARD GEORGE
    Aircraftman 1st Class
    52228
    75sq
    8/09/1942
    18
    RAAF
    Australian
    A2. C. 13.
    PORT MORESBY (BOMANA) WAR CEMETERY
    Papua New Guinea
    Port Moresby

    SMITHSON, PETER GRAEME
    Aircraftman 2nd Class
    573107
    33sq
    RAF
    31/05/1941
    18
    RAF
    Australian Column 246.
    ALAMEIN MEMORIAL
    Egypt
    Alamein
     
  2. spidge

    spidge RAAF RESEARCHER

    Of the 74 deaths of RAAF 18 year olds that occurred during ww2, 68 were, except for a few, due to "Accidental" causes in Australia. Aircraft accidents etc.

    Pilot Officer Arthur Francis Emery (DFC) (Navigator) 460sq was shot down over Germany on his 33rd mission which is tragic. Lancaster PB567 was shot down, he managed to escape but was shot near the border.

    EMERY, ARTHUR FRANCIS (DFC)
    Pilot Officer
    424263
    460sq
    31/10/1944
    18
    RAAF
    Australian
    2. K. 15.
    RHEINBERG WAR CEMETERY
    Germany
    Kamp Lintfort, Nordrhein-Westfal



    Thinking more about this young lad, how long would it usually have taken to do 33 missions.


    Cheers

    Geoff
     
  3. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

  4. nicks

    nicks Very Senior Member

    Geoff

    You may already have this info regarding F/Sgt Aidan Jordan;

    8 Jan 1944 77 Sqn Halifax III MZ701 KN-Training

    P/0 G L Hyde RAAF +
    Sgt H Fox +
    Sgt E F Chapman +
    Sgt D J Hutchison +
    F/S K F Galvin RAAF +
    F/S A Jordan RAAF +
    F/S J D Krone RAAF +

    T/o 0207 Full Sutton and crashed almost immediately, due to engine failure and loss of control. Apart from Sgt Fox who is buried in Huddersfield (Lockwood) Cemetery/ all rest in Harrogate (Stonefall) Cemetery. Their average age was 21 and at 18, F/S Jordan RAAF is ranked amongst the youngest Australians to be killed on Bomber Command duties. It is also noted that Sgt Hutchinson's parents lived in Sydney, Australia.


    BCL Losses Vol 5 W R Chorley


    There is a Sqn photo on this site a month or so before his death, unfortunatley I can not see his name listed.


    77 Squadron Association


    Regards,


    Nick
     
  5. spidge

    spidge RAAF RESEARCHER

    Geoff

    You may already have this info regarding F/Sgt Aidan Jordan;

    8 Jan 1944 77 Sqn Halifax III MZ701 KN-Training

    P/0 G L Hyde RAAF +
    Sgt H Fox +
    Sgt E F Chapman +
    Sgt D J Hutchison +
    F/S K F Galvin RAAF +
    F/S A Jordan RAAF +
    F/S J D Krone RAAF +

    T/o 0207 Full Sutton and crashed almost immediately, due to engine failure and loss of control. Apart from Sgt Fox who is buried in Huddersfield (Lockwood) Cemetery/ all rest in Harrogate (Stonefall) Cemetery. Their average age was 21 and at 18, F/S Jordan RAAF is ranked amongst the youngest Australians to be killed on Bomber Command duties. It is also noted that Sgt Hutchinson's parents lived in Sydney, Australia.


    BCL Losses Vol 5 W R Chorley


    There is a Sqn photo on this site a month or so before his death, unfortunatley I can not see his name listed.


    77 Squadron Association


    Regards,


    Nick

    Hi Nick,

    Thank you for the info.

    Was that a Typo on your post (8th Jan 1944) or an error in Chorley as it should be 8th June 1944.

    Hutchinson is actually an Australian who was in the RAF (243 died in the RAF and are listed as UK). Went to look up his headstone as I was sent all of Harrogate however it is not amongst them. The chap that did them must have taken all the RAAF photos and not looked at the list.

    My fault as I have not named them all yet. Will have to do them now!

    I thought the headstone may have had "of Australia" on it as mos do. I will contact him and ask if he could get it for me next time he is in the area.

    I do have another "Aussie" in the RAF at Harrogate and I do not have him either so it seems that this is the case. This chap was most unlucky!

    PARKER, VINCENT Flight Lieutenant
    Parker was a Battle of Britain pilot (234 Squadron) who was shot down on August 15th 1940 and taken prisoner. He ended up in Colditz

    He stayed in the RAF after liberation and was killed in a flying accident whilst based at RAF Milfield (56 OTU) in Tempest EJ859 on 29th January 1946
    He was the Foster-son and nephew of John William and Edith Parker, of Ingham, Queensland, Australia.

    Cheers

    Geoff
     
  6. spidge

    spidge RAAF RESEARCHER

    Hello Geoff

    just looked through this
    The Last Mission of RAF Lancaster KB-834
    Feb 13-14, 1945
    Feb 14-15, 1945
    Feb 20-21, 1945
    Feb 21-22, 1945
    Feb 23-24, 1945
    Feb 27-28, 1945
    Feb 28, 1945
    March 1, 1945
    March 5-6, 1945
    March 8, 1945
    March 11, 1945

    excerpt showing 11 missions in about a month

    also
    Loss of Lancaster PB567, of 460 Squadron RAAF
    Arthur Francis Emery, DFC - 460 Squadron
    the average age of the crew was 20 years old

    im sure you will get more accurate info from another member


    Thanks for the info.

    Gives me an idea of how close the missions were.
     
  7. Peter Clare

    Peter Clare Very Senior Member

    PARKER, VINCENT Flight Lieutenant
    Parker was a Battle of Britain pilot (234 Squadron) who was shot down on August 15th 1940 and taken prisoner. He ended up in Colditz

    He stayed in the RAF after liberation and was killed in a flying accident whilst based at RAF Milfield (56 OTU) in Tempest EJ859 on 29th January 1946
    He was the Foster-son and nephew of John William and Edith Parker, of Ingham, Queensland, Australia.
    A little more on the loss of F/L. Parker.

    The aircraft was flying at about 5000 to 6000 feet and was seen to enter a slow roll. When inverted, the nose dropped and the aircraft descended in a slow spin or spiral dive without any recovery action being evident. At about 100 feet the aircraft appeared to recover partially but then stalled and crashed at Felkington, Northumberland.
     
  8. nicks

    nicks Very Senior Member

    Was that a Typo on your post (8th Jan 1944) or an error in Chorley as it should be 8th June 1944.



    Geoff

    It was an error that my OCR software made that I hadn't noticed, the date in Chorley is 8th June 1944.

    Nick
     
  9. spidge

    spidge RAAF RESEARCHER

  10. spidge

    spidge RAAF RESEARCHER

    Another book report says he was actually born in Australia.

    The Plot thickens!


    Chers

    Geoff
     

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