Tydvil Ronald James

Discussion in 'Searching for Someone & Military Genealogy' started by Gaynor Owen, Jan 14, 2020.

  1. minden1759

    minden1759 Senior Member

    The black triangle with the red dagger designates that he has passed the Royal Marines Commando Course.

    Regards

    Frank
     
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  2. Gaynor Owen

    Gaynor Owen Member

    Hi and thank you for your response.
    The medals are the Italy Star, the France Germany Star and the African Star. And yes it is a green beret with what we think is the SAS badge. My cousin is also an ex-serviceman and picked up on that straight away.

    Gaynor
     
  3. Gaynor Owen

    Gaynor Owen Member

    Tydvil is, as far as I have found, one of only two welsh people with that name, the other was a female with the f instead of the v. My gran must have named him after the place, Merthyr Tydfil, but no idea why. I wish my gran had spoken about Tydvil more, there must have been a huge falling out between them.

    Gaynor.
     
  4. travers1940

    travers1940 Well-Known Member

    I should have been clearer when I quoted the other JAMES people on the electoral Roll at Paddington Hospital 1951/52. They would have had to be 21 or older to be on the electoral roll, so can't be Tydvil's children. All of the voters listed for the hospital were in one big alphabetical list, so its probable they are other employees who happen to have that surname, or are older JAMES relations.

    Have run a quick check on ancestry for any JAMES births from 1940-1960 with MORAN as the mothers maiden name:
    Salisbury Registration District, Wilts: 6 births 1940-1950
    Birkenhead RD, Cheshire: 6 births 1947-1958
    Birmingham, Cannock, Wolverhampton RD's 4 births 1943-1960
    These can't all be assumed to be family groups.

    No London births found, but as mentioned by others, either Tydvil's will, or the informants name on his or his wife's death certs would help with any children they may have had.

    If a fathers name & details are listed on your fathers full birth certificate, legally this means that the father would have to present at the registration and agree to his details being recorded. Even in wartime for a birth out of wedlock, I can't see any registrar breaking this rule.

    Good luck with your search.
     
  5. Gaynor Owen

    Gaynor Owen Member

    Ahh I see, I shall double check amongst my grandmothers siblings and their children. Thanks so much for your responses, they have been so helpful.

    Gaynor.
     
  6. Gaynor Owen

    Gaynor Owen Member

    Hi Frank,

    I asked my cousin if he could take a look for a number on the ribbons, he sent me this picture. We didn't want to disturb the ribbons, which are very well sewn, to look at the back.
     

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  7. KevinBattle

    KevinBattle Senior Member

    So, left to right as you look at the photo:- 1939-45 Star; Africa Star (no clasp); Italy Star (red has faded to orange tones) France & Germany Star and the War Medal. The Africa Star could have one of 3 clasps; a small rosette or the numeral "1" or "8" (depending if in 1st Army or 8th Army Group) but don't think they'd be shown on just the ribbon strip as shown on the tunic. Africa Star - Wikipedia

    That may help Pals suggest a likely unit, subject to confirmation whenever you receive his Service records.

    As regards the family history side, good luck with that as, even with an unusual name, there seem to be quite a few red herrings in tracing him and Annie Norris.
     
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  8. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    Bottom row is Defence Medal and War Medal

    Medals: campaigns, descriptions and eligibility
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    Not sure why he would be awarded the Defence Medal as he was 'operational' all over the Med and NW Europe, and it was basically only for 'non operational' service

    TD
     
  9. Gaynor Owen

    Gaynor Owen Member


    Thank you so much for all your help. After chatting to my cousin it appears that the clasps and medals themselves were missing when his mother received the tunic, he suspects that they were 'acquired' by members of Tydvils wifes family, but clearly they had no interest in the tunic or the green beret.

    My next step now will be to apply for Tydvils service records.

    I shall also keep looking into the family history side of things, though at the moment it does seem that Tydvil may have had no children. It was my aunt, Tydvils sister Joan who dealt with his affairs and arranged for his burial, her son Anthony tells me that she would have known if there were children from his marriage. So it looks as though my father, if he was Tydvils son, was his only child.

    Annie Norris was well known to me, she was my grandmother (or if Tydvil was my grandfather, my great-grandmother. So I know all of her descendants and despite a huge falling out between her and her family, I have managed to find out who her parents and siblings were.

    Again, thank you so much for all your help, I really do appreciate it.

    Gaynor.
     
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