WD Number Query (and excellent vehicle photographs).

Discussion in 'Weapons, Technology & Equipment' started by ken griffin, Nov 17, 2008.

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  1. Bodston

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    Fort Sandeman is at Quetta in modern Pakistan. One of the Frontier outposts.

    These photographs definitely have a value Ken. See this similar album.
     
  2. von Poop

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  3. ken griffin

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    Bodston,
    quite a long way from this photo
    Ken.
     

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  4. ken griffin

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    Bodston,
    thanks for directing to those 2 sites, very interesting, can't afford the album, I'll have to make one of my own, nearly all of the photos I have, have numbers on the back,by the people who processed them, so I'll know a fake, if i see one.

    Ken.
     
  5. Bodston

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    Bodston,
    quite a long way from this photo
    Ken.

    I suppose everything is relative! On the wild frontier maybe a distance of over 200 miles is considered 'close'. :unsure:
     

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  6. von Poop

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    Just reading on 'Landships' of a British WW1 tank captured by the Germans during their advance into Russia and displayed in the Lustgarten with other enemy equipment (You can imagine the propagandic attraction of showing the Berliners such an obsolete piece of kit).
    Looks like the same vehicle as in Bod's picture:
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    Apparently ATB's 'Berlin then & now' has more information.
    There's also a few references on the web to colour pictures of it, but I've yet to find any.
     
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  7. razin

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    It is said to be one from 4 captured in Estonia, but it may have been from some captured in France in 1940, there was also one which was found in Minsk.

    Steve
     
  8. von Poop

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    A chap's turned up on WW2F with some pictures from c.1938 that I think may be the same unit as Ken's Dad?

    Hello,

    I found these photographs amongst my grandfather's possessions.
    I know he served as a sapper in the Royal Engineers in 1940.
    There were also these photos dated around March/April 1938.
    Can anyone help identifying the possible regiment details.
    One has Samhamn written on the back.

    Thanks for your help.

    The main reason my eyebrow raised isn't just the date and 'feel of the photos, but that one of the tanks has the same, or very similar, number to Ken's 'Bedale'.
    The 'new' tank has the number 38246, and Ken's has 3824 with either a 6 or an 8 as the final digit.
    I appreciate the vehicles might have served with different units, but what do you chaps think? Here's the pictures (posted with permission) :

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    9252d1259151360-help-grandfathers-p.jpg

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    And finally the new photo that caught my eye - 38246:
    9253d1259151360-help-grandfathers-p.jpg

    And Ken's original shot of 'Bedale' with the 38246 or 8 number:
    Tbedale.jpg

    ?

    ~A
     
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  9. ken griffin

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    Hi Adam,
    Tks for yr e-mail,
    top photo is of "B" Squadron 17/21st Lancers, Winners R.A.T.A. Shield 1937. Taken by
    M.A. Rahman & Son, Photographer, Meerut.

    Re BEDALE I have same photo as pic 5, will look some more out Bedale number was definitely 38246.
    Ken.
     
  10. von Poop

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    Cheers for looking Ken. Much appreciated, I'll pass that on to the WW2F chap.

    ~A
     
  11. ken griffin

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    Adam,
    do we have a last name for this chaps grandfather? as I have some photos with names on.
    Ken.
     
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  12. von Poop

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    Ernest Jenner:
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    Served 652 co. RE in 1940/41.

    We also have this chap among the 'new' 17/21st Photos, no name other than 'from Len' inscribed:
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  13. nick bullock

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    Hi Ken
    I have just seen your post regarding Humber Scout Cars. The vehicle in your story is a MK1 Humber Scout car, the F Serial number F196489 places it as an early 1944 build, probably mid january. and the vehicle belonged to military contract number M2394. This was an order for 4000 such vehicles, production started in March 1943 and appears to have concluded in Nov 1944. This particular vehicle would have been vehicle chassis number 1389 (from 4000). I would be very interested to hear a little more about your scout car story, where did this incident happen and when?
    kind regards
    Nick
     
  14. KevinT

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    More Berlin, don't know if you'll get the last one on the left,
    but you seem to be the experts, good luck.
    More to follow later, as I'm going for a couple of pints, to celebrate.

    Ken.


    Third set of Tanks-
    A34 Comet - Perhaps the armoured symbol for British Occupation of Berlin.
    This one with 7th Armoured Division going by the Gerboa.
    Perhaps 22nd Armoured Brigade from the Mooses head? There are others here that understand these markings far better than I.

    A27M Cromwell VI (close support 95mm), though by the point the picture dates from it may well have been an A27L Centaur III or IV at some point in it's history - those types being externally near identical and upgraded in Engine or Gun to Cromwell VI standard.

    Third picture looks like Comets shedded up in some German barracks with a rather nice Sherman recovery vehicle to the right. Barracks/Tank sheds seem familiar?



    I was indeed!
    My forum day is made ;).

    I have just come across this post and sorry this reply is a little late but....
    The third photo of the Sherman ARV is interesting in that it is a M32 ( possibly a B1 ) but there were only around 300 issued T340909 - T341208. Some were used by Polish regiments in Italy and I believe some Czech and British regiments in NWE. You do not see many photos of them around. The number looks to be T340959 which fits to the WD serials issued. It would be nice to be able to read the name and confirm the number.

    Cheers
    Kevin
     
  15. von Poop

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    I've fixed the link to the M32 I put into the original post, Kevin - think it was going to the Modelling forum and I'd moved the thread from there.

    Shame Ken, hasn't popped in for a couple of years (this is one of my favourite threads), but at least he's left us the pictures.
     
  16. KevinT

    KevinT Senior Member

    Thanks for putting the link in.
    It is a shame Ken has not posted for a while.

    I think that the Comet IRON DUKE IV and the Cromwell PAT KIRKWOOD are from 1st RTR. Courtesy of British Pathe.

    Cheers
    Kevin
     

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