hi von poop,today.2:06pm.re:bikes.i watched a tv show called megga factory's.it was about Harley Davidson motor bikes.they showed the latest design of there super bike.now the reason I am writing about it,is they made a big thing of placing the frame outside.looking at your picture on gallery today,it shows the frame outside,and this is ww2,so whats new???great thread and pictures.have a good day bernard85