3rd Coldstream Salerno

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  1. 3CG1943

    3CG1943 Member

    Thanks again Gary. That is really good as he was either 1 of the 10 or 1 of the 3 injured but both parties was 3 company so I know his company now which is brilliant.
     
  2. Tullybrone

    Tullybrone Senior Member

    Hi,

    From the date of his 1943 “draft code” I’d suggest he sailed with convoy KMF 20 that departed Oversay 20th July 1943 - initially as part of WS32.

    WS (Winston Specials) Convoys in WW2 - 1943 Sailings

    The service record acronym RSL is not one that I’m familiar with from looking at numerous Guards service records but it may be Regimental Staff Liaison? Men attached elsewhere usually have the acronym ERE on their service record.

    My understanding is that RSM Brittain only served with BEF as RSM 1st CG for a relatively short time 1939/40 before returning to UK to take up a training role. He was not overseas at the time of the Dunkirk evacuation.


    Edit to add.

    Your grandfather might’ve been RSM Brittain’s driver in UK as he was RSM 6th CG on its formation.

    I suspect the “drunk driving” anecdote you mention would’ve more likely occurred “at home” rather than on active service overseas where it may have lead to very serious disciplinary consequences.


    Steve
     
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  3. 3CG1943

    3CG1943 Member

    From what I can work out Tibby went out with 1st battalion on 29/09/39 as RSM. And returned to be RSM of the new holding BTN 08/03/40. My grandad was driver 13/11/39-05/01/40, so possible.

    Nan said “He was waiting for Tibby who was having a meeting and he got talking to the french locals outside who offered him wine. He got a bit tipsy and thought best to sleep it off in the car. Not 5 minutes after he closed his eyes Tibby got in.”

    Being ex 1st battalion myself I know that they still have the discipline entry’s books so might ask a mate to check the dates out.
     
  4. Gary Tankard

    Gary Tankard Well-Known Member

    Actually, only the ten were No. 3 company, the 'three' were in the Carrier Platoon.

    Looking at my information I only have the following as OR casualties on the 21st September 1943. This info is from the official casualty lists.

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    You can see Crowe, Flynn and Mountford are all reported on the same list CL 1279, page 10.

    I found another file on FMP and you can see all three were entered together - interestingly all three were wounded on their right side. The other casualties of the 21st September are not entered together and, although I can't prove it yet, it tends me to think that these are the three Carrier Platoon casualties.

    ccgcas.jpg
     
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  5. Gary Tankard

    Gary Tankard Well-Known Member

    If you contact me via a PM and give me your e-mail I'll send over the September War Diaries, all the full file extracts from FMP and the map that that you can use the map co-ordinates on.
     
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  6. Gary Tankard

    Gary Tankard Well-Known Member

    Thought these might be of interest as well.

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  7. 3CG1943

    3CG1943 Member

    Gary you are a absolute star mate this is brilliant stuff, thank you so so much. I shall PM you.
     
  8. 3CG1943

    3CG1943 Member

    Here are the driving courses he went on, I have read on this site a class 2 cat ‘D is a carrier qualification so possible. Also a GDSM Mountford is mentioned in book “no dishonourable name”. Maybe the same person
     

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