Can you believe it?

Discussion in 'The Lounge Bar' started by Peter Clare, Dec 3, 2006.

  1. Anne Mullis

    Anne Mullis Junior Member

    Hi
    I most heartily agree, with your comments and would ask these do-gooders who won the war? Should I go to a Muslim country would I be allowed to carry on my Faith?
    I think not!!!These people are trying to claim political asylum and most cases get away with it. Should accept that they are coming to a Christian country. But they know what they are coming to, and not expect us to accept their faith. This is our way and we will celebrate Xmas as we have always done, if they dont like it, move out. But unfortunately we have a load of bigots in this country but think this is the right way to go. Amen
    Pete
     
  2. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

  3. Za Rodinu

    Za Rodinu Hot air manufacturer

    Should I go to a Muslim country would I be allowed to carry on my Faith?

    Depends, on a few of them you can. By the way, what Faith are you, Wiccan, Baha'i, Animist, Red or Yellow Hat Tibetan Buddhist, Nestorian, Servant to Cthulhu?
     
  4. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    I was surprised to find out that when I arrived in Iraq in 2003 that Christianity was the second biggest/largest faith in the country and the then Prime Minister Mr Aziz was a follower of that faith....So to answer your question yes you probably could carry on your faith give or take a few exceptions to the rule :)

    I think denying someone a basic right to practise their faith in the UK reminds me of the dark days of a certain country in the 1930's.

    For the record I don't practise any particular faith and indeed I have only been 'religious' on a few occasions in my life - mostly when I thought I was going to die. However I do like the fact that in the main the UK embraces all religons and the diversity it brings to communities.

    Cheers
    Andy
     
  5. Peter Clare

    Peter Clare Very Senior Member

    Wonder if hes willing to serve his congregations sentence when they are caught?



    BBC News - 'Thou shalt shoplift' says priest

    A priest from North Yorkshire has advised his congregation to shoplift if they find themselves in hard times.

    Father Tim Jones, the parish priest of St Lawrence and St Hilda in York, said people should steal from big chains rather than small businesses.
    He said society's attitude to those in need "leaves some people little option but crime".
    However the Archdeacon of York said: "The Church of England does not advise anyone to shoplift".
    North Yorkshire Police described the sermon as "highly irresponsible".

    'Catastrophic folly'

    A force spokesman said despite people getting in difficult situations "shoplifting or committing other crimes should never be the solution".
    "To do this would make the downward spiral even more rapid, both on an individual basis and on society as a whole," he said.

    [​IMG] [​IMG] I would ask that they do not steal from small, family businesses, but from national businesses, knowing that the costs are ultimately passed on to the rest of us in the form of higher prices [​IMG]

    Speaking to his congregation on Sunday, Father Jones said: "My advice, as a Christian priest, is to shoplift.
    "I do not offer such advice because I think that stealing is a good thing, or because I think it is harmless, for it is neither.
    "I would ask that they do not steal from small, family businesses, but from national businesses, knowing that the costs are ultimately passed on to the rest of us in the form of higher prices.
    "When people are released from prison, or find themselves suddenly without work or family support, then to leave them for weeks and weeks with inadequate or clumsy social support is monumental, catastrophic folly.
    "We create a situation which leaves some people little option but crime."

    'Important issues'

    Speaking later on BBC Radio York, Father Jones said his intention had not been to rally people to shoplifting, but to encourage people to give more to charity to avoid those in need from becoming so desperate.
    "If one has exhausted every legal opportunity to get money and you're still in a desperate situation it is a better moral thing to do to take absolutely no more than you need for no longer than you need," he said.
    However the Archdeacon of York, the Venerable Richard Seed, said: "Father Tim Jones is raising important issues about the difficulties people face when benefits are not forthcoming, but shoplifting is not the way to overcome these difficulties."
    Father Jones made the news in May 2008 when he made a protest about Playboy branded stationery being aimed at children. He went into a local stationers and threw the Playboy merchandise on the floor.
     
  6. spidge

    spidge RAAF RESEARCHER

    BBC News - 'Thou shalt shoplift' says priest

    A priest from North Yorkshire has advised his congregation to shoplift if they find themselves in hard times.



    These little snippets never cease to amaze me. He will be looking for a roll in Oliver next!:lol:

    Do you have anything to say in your defence?

    Yes your worship - My priest told me to do it!
     
  7. Za Rodinu

    Za Rodinu Hot air manufacturer

    What a load of bollocks! :mad:

    "She is not looking to be a vigilante, and has the utmost respect for the law, but when the police explained to her that even if you're at home alone and you have an intruder, you are not allowed to protect yourself, she was bemused."
    With all the cold and a police force like that? All right it's rainining a bit but we don't want to be Mauritania, so come on in, the door is open!

    :rolleyes:
     
  8. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    More media rubbish Za. ;)
     
  9. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    Sukhwinder Singh, 31, was attacked on Friday as he pursued two men who had mugged a 28-year-old woman in Barking.

    Mr Singh died at the Royal London Hospital. A post mortem test showed he died from a stab wound to the heart.


    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/8450506.stm
     
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  10. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Told ya Sikhs were good blokes.
    Poor sod.
    Hope they get the tossers who did it.
     
  11. gray59

    gray59 Discharged

    comming back to the original thread about the union flag, personaly i would bow to the council's wish's but then put up another 2 flagpoles with the scotish & northern ireland flags on aswell just to show them what a proud nation we are

    i wonder what the arguement would be then....
     
  12. Za Rodinu

    Za Rodinu Hot air manufacturer

    Told ya Sikhs were good blokes.

    Sikhs, Ghurkas, they all look like Greek to me ;) (tongue firmly stuck inside my cheek!)

    Hope they get the tossers who did it.

    Hmmm...

    The two suspects were described as black, aged in their 20s to 30s, and both were about 5ft 7in to 6ft.
    :lol:



    This somehow looks like the old joke about the old Berliner who went to the Soviet police station and reported:
    - I was assaulted by two Swiss soldiers who stole my Soviet watch!
    - Comrade, you must be mixed up, certainly you mean to say that you were assaulted by two Soviet soldiers who stole your Swiss watch!
    - That's your interpretation, Comrade, not mine!

    :D
     
  13. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

  14. marcus69x

    marcus69x I love WW2 meah!!!

  15. Za Rodinu

    Za Rodinu Hot air manufacturer

    Three years suspended sentence and 100h community service for a horrible death?
     
  16. Za Rodinu

    Za Rodinu Hot air manufacturer

  17. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

  18. beccajade

    beccajade Member

    I hope they didnt detain the snooty tissue as evidence!
     
  19. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

  20. marcus69x

    marcus69x I love WW2 meah!!!

    I love this line:

    ["Maybe the machine got confused," a council spokesman said.]

    :lol:
     

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