Goatley boat dimensions

Discussion in 'Weapons, Technology & Equipment' started by Peter Van Caneghem, Mar 11, 2024.

  1. Gents,

    Can anyone help me with the following matter. Als a project for 80 years liberation of our region in the low lands we want to build some dioramas for a temporary expo in our local museum. In one of these dioramas we want to incorporate 2 Goatley assault boat.
    I have acquired a 3D file to print these item but we don't know the scale of this item. To depict the item in the correct scale I need the dimensions of the real thing.
    Thus my question, does anyone have this info and would you please provide it to me via this forum?
    I inserted some pictures of the model.

    Regards Peter goatley1.png goatley2.png goatley3.png
     
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  2. papiermache

    papiermache Well-Known Member

    Welcome to the forum, Peter.

    Thread here may help: Canvas Assault Boats.

    The Imperial War Museum has descriptions of other items which include references to Goatley craft:

    Torch, civilian industrial pattern: SOE

    Sestral hand-held compass

    "The approach to the shore was done on Goatley boats, ten-man collapsible craft, and dories, 18/22 foot (5.5/6.6m) wooden powerboats, both of which soon became popular with other small boat units. Canoes, now named Cockles, were also used."

    The National Archives has this file, not digitised as yet:

    Reference: DEFE 2/798
    Description:
    Canoes and cockles: report of trials of Goatley 12-man folding boat
    Date: 1940-1942
    Held by: The National Archives, Kew
    Former reference in its original department: DCO C10-1

    Best wishes,
    John
     
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  3. DannyM

    DannyM Member

    Hi,
    The attached any use?

    Regards

    Mk 2  &  Mk 3.jpg
     
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  4. Richelieu

    Richelieu Well-Known Member

    Welcome Peter.

    The Canadian Goatley file, complete with plans and a few photos, is available here.
     
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  5. papiermache

    papiermache Well-Known Member

  6. JimHerriot

    JimHerriot Ready for Anything

    Just one image from Richelieu's excellent link (downloaded from same the two drawings that follow this letter on the website are of a decent file size and should large up/print well - their dimensions jpeg wise are too large to load up here!) Images 637 and 638, that follow the letter (image 636) links below, are the ones.

    Canadian Military Headquarters, London : C-5836 - Héritage

    Canadian Military Headquarters, London : C-5836 - Héritage

    Once again, all thanks to Richelieu's knowledge.

    Kind regards, always,

    Jim.

    oocihm.lac_reel_c5836.636.jpg
     
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  7. Thanks to all

    this information is perfect!!

    Peter
     
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  8. papiermache

    papiermache Well-Known Member

  9. Danny,

    in which book can you find the info you provided me?

    regards
    Peter
     
  10. papiermache

    papiermache Well-Known Member

    Peter, it seems possible that this Canadian author will be able to help you.

    Words and Books

    Good Hunting

    John
     

    Attached Files:

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  11. Aixman

    Aixman War Establishment addict Patron

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  12. DannyM

    DannyM Member

    Hello Peter,
    The illustrations are from Rafting and Bridging - Military Training Pamphlet No. 74 - Part III - Assault Crossing Equipment – 1944 and The Assault Crossing of Water Obstacles - Military Training Pamphlet No. 20 - Part II - Water Crossing Equipment - 1947

    These two documents are in the National Archives, London. Not available online.

    In Papiermache’s link there is one book that has a rendition of these illustrations. It is Allied Attack Boats: A Study of the Storm and Assault Boats Used in River Crossings in Europe During World War II.

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Allied-Att...41-4d9d-a4e1-e8b904d24774&ref_=aufs_ap_sc_dsk

    Attached is a another illustration from the manual.

    Regards

    Danny
    Load.jpg
     
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  13. papiermache

    papiermache Well-Known Member

    ROBERT BROWNING
    How they Brought the Good News from Ghent to Aix

    I SPRANG to the stirrup, and Joris, and he;
    I galloped, Dirck galloped, we galloped all three;
    ‘Good speed!’ cried the watch, as the gate-bolts undrew;
    ‘Speed!’ echoed the wall to us galloping through;
    Behind shut the postern, the lights sank to rest,
    And into the midnight we galloped abreast.

    How they Brought the Good News from Ghent to Aix, by Robert Browning

    ( Uncertain where the OP's lowlands are, but Robert Browning seems appropriate given the locations of the contributors on the thread.)
     
  14. horsapassenger

    horsapassenger Senior Member

    Photos from the file DEFE 2/798 showing the trials - I have higher resolution of them Screenshot 2024-03-14 at 11.56.57.png Screenshot 2024-03-14 at 11.56.36.png
     
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