Nazi List of British 'Undesirables' ?

Discussion in 'The Holocaust' started by Steve G, Nov 4, 2008.

  1. Steve G

    Steve G Senior Member

    In amongst all my reading of this general subject matter I remember seeing mention of how the Nazi's, with a view to crossing the channel and being their usual, thorough selves, had already prepared a 'Hit List' of those they'd be particularly interested in meeting ~ albeit briefly.

    Makes me shudder to think how their ever being able to action such a list would have precluded my own existence.

    Just curious if anyone might be able to point me in the possible direction of further discovery, please?
     
  2. WotNoChad?

    WotNoChad? Senior Member

    Yes, the book "Last Ditch" has the list in it's entirity, as well as the situation explained and the steps taken to resist an invasion. It's a quite stunning read tbh.

    The Last Ditch: Britain's Resistance Plans Against the Nazis - Other British WW2 Books - World War Two Books – Military History Books online - Ceredigion - Wales UK

    There's no online version available, and the only archive which has a copy is a US based one, who's name I forget, who can supply a photocopy of the whole thing which posted to the UK comes in at around $95.

    It was my search for this list which brought me here in the first place, there are a few good threads floating around on it both here and possibly over at the other place; World War II Forums . Buggered if I can find any of them though.

    Hope this is of some use, if so it might be a record 14 minutes from query to answer.

    cheers,

    eta: Having said that here's one of those threads; Gestapo Arrest List - World War II Forums
     
  3. Steve G

    Steve G Senior Member

    OMG! I've gone stone cold! Thankyou! I'm buying that book! :eek:
     
  4. WotNoChad?

    WotNoChad? Senior Member

    That's more or less what I said when someone pointed it out to me. Happy to help.

    cheers,
     
  5. Gibbo

    Gibbo Senior Member

    The German list was lengthy but perhaps not thorough. It included Sigmund Freud, who was dead, and confusion over titles and double-barrelled names meant that some people appeared twice.
     
  6. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    I think this fine body of men were on it too
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    Thanks to this guy :)
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    Sorry I coudn't resist ......Hope you didn't mind :)
     
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  7. PsyWar.Org

    PsyWar.Org Archive monkey

    I'm fairly sure the IWM has a copy of it.

    I know the journalist Sefton Delmer was on it, as was Ian Fleming.
     
  8. Steve G

    Steve G Senior Member

    eta: Having said that here's one of those threads; Gestapo Arrest List - World War II Forums


    " That's ok. I had them on my list too. " :lol::lol::lol:

    Funniest thing I've read in a long time! What a brilliant come back! :lol:
     
  9. WotNoChad?

    WotNoChad? Senior Member

    [​IMG]


    Don't tell them your name Drew5233.

    I'm fairly sure the IWM has a copy of it.


    Ah that might be were I went wrong originally, I tracked down an original version of the list, Hoover Archive I vaguely recall.
     
  10. PsyWar.Org

    PsyWar.Org Archive monkey

    Ah that might be were I went wrong originally, I tracked down an original version of the list, Hoover Archive I vaguely recall.

    I regularly visit the Hoover archives so will check it out next time I'm there.
    It might work out cheaper for me to photocopy it rather than getting the staff to do it. I can work out the costs involved if you want?

    Lee
     
  11. Ron Goldstein

    Ron Goldstein WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    Knowing how the Nazi Party worked it must surely have come as no surprise to anyone that such a list (Nazi Party List of Undesirables in the UK) existed.

    I am reminded me of an incident I experienced as a young boy living in the pre-war East End of London.

    In 1935, at the tender age of twelve/thirteen , I was introduced by some friends to the Young Communist League which, at that time, had a branch in the Whitechapel area of London.

    Along with a few of these friends who, even at that young age, were more politically motivated than myself, I went along to a meeting of the branch to see what it was all about.

    I remember being intrigued by the fact that in the centre of the room was a wood burning stove always kept stoked and ready for firing. In this stove was kept the branch membership list !
     
  12. airborne medic

    airborne medic Very Senior Member

    There is also another book on the Auxiliary Units written a few years ago by a man called John Worricker (hope I spelt that right) called 'With Britain in Mortal Danger'...he also runs or used to run the 'British Resistance Museum'......the arrest list from 'The Last Ditch' is a copy of the actual one used in 'Germna' typing.....I recall Winston Churchill being on it together with Noel Coward.....
     
  13. WotNoChad?

    WotNoChad? Senior Member

    I regularly visit the Hoover archives so will check it out next time I'm there.
    It might work out cheaper for me to photocopy it rather than getting the staff to do it. I can work out the costs involved if you want?

    Lee

    Thanks for the offer, but I settled for the list in the back of Lampe's book.

    cheers,
     
  14. WotNoChad?

    WotNoChad? Senior Member

    There is also another book on the Auxiliary Units written a few years ago by a man called John Worricker (hope I spelt that right) called 'With Britain in Mortal Danger'...he also runs or used to run the 'British Resistance Museum'......the arrest list from 'The Last Ditch' is a copy of the actual one used in 'Germna' typing.....I recall Winston Churchill being on it together with Noel Coward.....

    Quite right, but it's Warwicker, I trundled off to find the site which offered that book for sale. I found it a bit steep at fifty quid a copy, only to find there's another book out now for twenty-five. :)

    Details here, along with more Aux unit info;
    Aux Unit News - Auxiliary Units in the UK 1940-44

    cheers,
     
  15. geoff501

    geoff501 Achtung Feind hört mit

    I found a paperback copy of a book a few years back in one of those bookshops that sold end of run prints. It was called Invasion 1940 and was a reprint of two documents The Gestapo Handbook For The Invasion of Britain and Special Wanted List GB, with the A-Z listing of wanted persons. The original compiler was SS General Walter Schellenberg. The book is probably out of print now, printed by St Ermin's Press, in association with IWM, 2001.
    The original book also contained slides of some of the wanted persons, but were too poor to reproduce in the reprint.
     
  16. WotNoChad?

    WotNoChad? Senior Member

    Thanks for the heads up on that one geoff
     
  17. geoff501

    geoff501 Achtung Feind hört mit

    Thanks for the heads up on that one geoff

    Book contents:

    http://www.********.co.uk/WW2talk/part1.jpg

    http://www.********.co.uk/WW2talk/part2.jpg

    EDIT: Not sure why the registry of persons is given page number 000 - it is over 100 pages of wanted persons listed.
     
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  18. WotNoChad?

    WotNoChad? Senior Member

    EDIT: Not sure why the registry of persons is given page number 000 - it is over 100 pages of wanted persons listed.

    Looks like the typesetter put in zeros to set the tabulation, but never came back with the details. Thanks again tracked a copy down already.:rolleyes:

    cheers,
     
  19. PsyWar.Org

    PsyWar.Org Archive monkey

    It's funny how things go. After reading this thread it reminded me that I've been meaning for sometime to check out the arrest list for a number of names. Hopefully next month I will get a chance to see the original at Hoover but in the meantime decided to get the two books mentioned here on an inter-library loan.

    Invasion 1940 arrived this morning. However, I made mistake with the order and have received the wrong book. I received Invasion 1940 by Peter Fleming (Ian's brother) published in 1957 and not Invasion 1940 published by the Imperial War Museum in 2000.

    But it is a fortuitous mistake as it looks to be a good read and already has some data useful for my current researches. And it also reproduces four pages from the arrest list! :)

    Lee
     
  20. phylo_roadking

    phylo_roadking Very Senior Member

    Fleming's book, also published as Operation Sealion is an excellent read.
     

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