Destroyed tanks

Discussion in 'Weapons, Technology & Equipment' started by zerkalli, Dec 18, 2007.

  1. leccy

    leccy Senior Member

    Panther losing a fight with a Pershing
    Ouch

    Pershing M26 'Fireball'
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    The Protagonist got itself stuck and was abandoned
     
  2. panzerarm

    panzerarm Junior Member

    Hotton 24 Dec
    Hotton. Men of the 3rd U.S. Arm Div inspecting two knocked out German tanks of the 116th Pz Div, in front of the Fme Verdin, on the Chemin de Rahisse (nowadays Rue de la Roche). This picture was taken after the Germans had vacated Hotton on 24 December 44. From 21 until 23 Dec the Germans held the eastern and north-eastern part of the town. The area has changed significantly since the war: the Fme Verdin now is the house next to the traffic roundabout.

    There is no snow, not yet.

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    The same spot, picture taken from the air ... date unknown, with snow; the embankment in the background is of the Remblai du vicinal, the local tramway line - not in use anymore (nowadays route des Vergers). The picture is taken with a view slightly west /south-west. Hotton is beyond the railway embankment (houses in background). Has the Pz IV disappeared ... ?

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    Not, quite .... it has been moved just behind the pole, to the right, just outside the photograph. It's still visible on this one

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    At some point the Americans set fire to both tanks (see still number 00.00.05 - 00.00.47; they are still burning at 00.01.18 until 00.02.00).


    INVASION SCENES - EUROPE: US TROOPS - British Pathe




    I think those are some excellent pictures, but the order is all wrong!

    The first picture in your sequence appears to be the last in the chronology of events.

    IMO, the aerial photo is the first, as it still shows snow, and you can actually see part of the panzer IV at the far right of the photo, behind the telephone wire pole.

    Then would be your photo of the two tanks where the panzer IV is in the background behind the pole.

    The last picture in the sequence would be the one of the two tanks when they are in close proximity, Army Ordnance probably having moved both the panzer IV closer and the panther's turret, to ease trasport to the rear area, and ease congestion along that road.


    And to continue this thread:

    Before the bombing of Villers-Bocage:
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    After the Bombing:
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    -Kevin
     
  3. Jonathan Ball

    Jonathan Ball From the North.

    Not quite destroyed but certainly won`t fight again! (Soviet Snapshots)

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    Likewise...

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  4. Jonathan Ball

    Jonathan Ball From the North.

    A Panther in Cologne

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  5. Jonathan Ball

    Jonathan Ball From the North.

    A Panther (and a Panzer IV?) in Normandy

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  6. stolpi

    stolpi Well-Known Member

  7. panzerarm

    panzerarm Junior Member

    Thanks for posting the response. That was some excellent footage that I had missed the first time going through this thread. Looking at the photos again in conjunction with the film what you said definitely makes sense. I can't believe I missed the burnt road wheels on that last picture :wacko:

    Makes you wonder why that pz IV was moved? What did the U.S. have in mind for it before they gave up and set it aflame. Did the Germans retake Hotton, and thus the G.I.s set it alight mid-recovery because the Germans were on their way back?

    -Kevin
     
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  8. stolpi

    stolpi Well-Known Member

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  10. Rus74

    Rus74 Junior Member

    My first post.
    I give you, a T28!
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    It Т-35
     
  11. Dave55

    Dave55 Very Senior Member

    It Т-35

    Nice
     
  12. morrisc8

    morrisc8 Under the Bed

    British tanks with German troops looking on, one has a No 2 on side. photo from my collection.
    Keith
     

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  13. Jonathan Ball

    Jonathan Ball From the North.

    Picked up a copy of Panzerwrecks from the local carboot at the weekend and I do like this Pz IV photo with the 'Smoking Forbidden' warning on the wall.

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  14. idler

    idler GeneralList

    British tanks with German troops looking on, one has a No 2 on side. photo from my collection.
    Keith

    Thought they looked familiar: North Irish Horse
     
  15. Dave55

    Dave55 Very Senior Member

    Has anyone got any evidence of a KT being knocked out by anything other than mechanical failure or lack of fuel?

    I think in one of George Forty's books he mentions a Jagdtiger getting knocked out by air.

    Kev

    Hello

    Here's a shot of General Eisenhower with a King Tiger taken near Chambois.

    Dave
     

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  16. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1bOn6E5SlM
     
  17. m kenny

    m kenny Senior Member

    This is a collection area for scrap. The tanks are just outside a large engineering works complex and there are at last 20 Panthers waiting to be melted down
    I also remember it as after the war.
     
  18. m kenny

    m kenny Senior Member

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    The cracked turret belongs to this Panther

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    seen better when the turret is facing front

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    This tank is a very well know Canadian trophy (see writing on side-skirts) and lost during late June 8th attack on Bretteville-l’Orgeuilleuse thus the NAM caption is incorrect in claiming it as a 3 CLY victory. Not to say they did not use it for target practise at a later date and cause the cracking.
    Bretteville is also where we can find another 'cracked turret' Panther. The one in the main road with a large chunk out of the turret rear.

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  19. Smudger Jnr

    Smudger Jnr Our Man in Berlin

    States a PIAT was responsible for knocking out the Panther!
    I have read that German Armour Plate later in the war was not as malleable and as such, being harder, was prone to cracking and distortion.
    Hard to believe that a Panther crew allowed themselves to be hit so many times in the same area unless the tank was already knocked out
    I am still in the frame of mind that it may have been used for target practice.
    Regards
    Tom
     
  20. klambie

    klambie Senior Member

    M Kenny, would be interested in more details on the CanScot Panther which is not familiar to me. CanScots and Bretteville do not really match up, but curious to know more.

    FWIW, the Bretteville Panther with the cracked rear turret was apparently struck there by another Panther after being immobilized by some combination of PIAT and #75 grenades.
     

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