POW Death Railway

Discussion in 'Prisoners of War' started by deanlanghorn, Jun 18, 2023.

  1. deanlanghorn

    deanlanghorn New Member

    Hi,

    I am looking for some information on my wife's uncle
    TROOPER JOHN LUBY Died 19.08.1945 - Aged 24
    Service Number: 3856499
    Reconnaissance Corps
    18th (5th Bn. The Loyal Regt.) Regt.

    John is buried at

    KANCHANABURI WAR CEMETERY

    Grave 6. D. 62.

    On the associated pages on the CWGC site he is listed as initially being buried at 12 Kilo Camp and re-buried at Kanchanaburi on 2.04.1946
    On another page it lists him as Transferred From Open site/Ty. Cem - Prachap Kirikan Area?

    I have looked for 12 Kilo Camp on the Thai Burma Railway but can't see any reference to this?

    Prachuap Khiri Khan is 415km from Kanchanaburi?

    My mother in law told us that sadly John died as he was taken aboard a troop/hospital ship bringing him home? We have not been able to confirm this.

    Can anyone throw any light on this or direct me to where I could find any more information about John.

    Many thanks,

    Dean

     
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  2. Mr Jinks

    Mr Jinks Bit of a Cad

    I`m sure someone with a knowledge of these things will be along soon to answer your questions in the meanwhile
    Prachuap Khirikhan, Mergui Road (12 Kilo Camp). Mergui Road wasn`t a railway construction site it was as it`s title suggests `Road` construction . "The road connected Prachuap Khiri Khan to Mergui via Tenasserim on the Burmese south coast. It was hastily constructed under supervision of the Japanese army as a means of retreat in 1945"

    The Mergui Road, Burma | COFEPOW

    Mergui Road - Wikipedia

    Something to be going on with until the experts on the subject arrive.
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    Edit:- a little bit of connected information and documents related to your subject:-
    Fold3 info
    Full Name
    Luby, John
    Date of Birth
    31 May 1920
    Nationality
    British
    Date of Capture
    15 Feb 1942
    Date of Liberation
    30 Aug 1945
    Other POW Camps
    Thailand
    POW Camp
    Malai
    Rank Name
    Private
    Service Number
    3856499
    Profession
    Worker
    Duty Location
    Singapore
    Next of Kin
    Wife: Mary, 78 Park Street, Farnworth, Lancashire
    Service
    British Army
    Primary Unit
    18th Reconnaissance Corps
    Archive Reference
    Ron Bridge's Collection
    Conflict Period
    World War II
    Served for
    United Kingdom

    Documents:-

    Luby, John.jpg Luby, John (1).jpg Index.jpg Index (1).jpg Index (2).jpg Index (3).jpg


    Good Luck with your research

    Kyle
     
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  3. papiermache

    papiermache Well-Known Member

    I can add a couple of things. Contact this website: TBRC Online: THE THAILAND-BURMA RAILWAY CENTRE , because it is very likely that the TBRC will have more information on your relative.

    Australian Archives have this file, which is downloadable free. This gives further information.

    " NAA: B3856, 144/14/33 Series number: B3856 Control symbol: 144/14/33 Barcode: 772397
    Number of pages: 13
    Title: Nominal rolls of Prisoners of War [includes nominal roll - Prisoners of War Railway Siding Detachment, Medical Officer in Charge Captain Cayley and list of NONG HIN - Mergui Road deaths ][13 pages] "

    "Captain Cayley" served with the RAMC, attached to the 5th Suffolk regiment. His details were: Cayley, Forde E De W, Captain, service number: 101279.

    As for "12 Kilo", there was a tendency to measure ( and re-measure, which altered the old distances or kilo numbers on re-surveying! ) the length of the railway from each end. Post war "searcher parties" found original graves and arranged reburial.

    "12 kilo" will be somewhere up at the top of this map, made in 1946, which measures kilos from the Thai end of the railway. The starting point, for your purposes: 0 kilo, is Thanbuyzayat.
     

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  4. timuk

    timuk Well-Known Member

    Tpr John Luby left Singapore for the Thai Burma Railway 24//6/42 as part of the 'First Mainland' Party. In April 45 he was transferred to building the Mergui Road.
    Mergui Road

    Tim
     
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  5. deanlanghorn

    deanlanghorn New Member

    Many thanks Kyle, Tim and papiermâché for your input. It is much appreciated. Especially the grave marker and extra documents.

    So to summarise it looks like John was taken to work on the Thai Burma railway then transferred to work on the Murgui Road where he eventually succumbed to dysentery.
    Still not sure where the exact location of 12kilo camp may be?
    My wife and I intend to travel to Thailand when we retire in a couple of years time & visit the final resting place of John and retrace any other places he may have been.
    Many thanks again.
    Dean
     
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  6. papiermache

    papiermache Well-Known Member

    Thanks. I am not sure, either.

    Here is the southern end of the above map, but not as far as the Kra Isthmus ( for which I do not have a map of similar vintage), which is where the Mergui road was being built. I apologise for creating confusion by going to the Burma end.

    Here is a link to a summary of a war crimes case about the Mergui Road, downloadable free from the International Criminal Court ( only 828 KB.) The full case is at The National Archives at Kew, reference WO 235/981.

    https://www.legal-tools.org/doc/b26268/pdf
     

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  7. deanlanghorn

    deanlanghorn New Member

    Many thanks for everyone’s help with this and all the useful information you have given me.

    dean
     

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