Not Stryker!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just a question, did he have a replacement in mind? No, he was just blaspheming about The Duke, the movie "The Sands of Iwo Jima", the conservative right-wingers who liked him and the movie, the US movie going public and stuff like that in general. Boy did he got raked on the coals too. I'm sure he got deleted from a lot of facebook friend accounts over that one. The mods swept in several times to keep the natives from getting too restless! It was great! And he is an AUSSIE to boot!
Lucky, I'm not a member of that one.......I can only upset one group at a time. You can go over and lurk about you know! No passport needed, no pre-admission test (although I think that it would help a bit), just show up and you're in.
Given that there IS no accounting for taste.... I love "Anzio"! I'm aware its simply brim-full of errors...and how little actually does happen - but it was the first war film I remember seeing - and the views of the Forum, the Colosseum, the Castel Sant'Angelo and Ponte Sant'Angelo stayed with me for years until I got there myself a few years back. At least they tried to deal with the Cisterna massacre - far better than "Darby's Rangers" did. And characters like Ernie Pyle were almost 100% ignored by Holywood, so it's nice to see Mitchum's war correspondant get a look-in. But it's one of those films that's so bad it's good. It also has two MAJOR pluses for me - made at Cinecitta studios and "on location" in the Alban hills, I've been trying for a long time to find out exactly where it was filmed, how close to the real Anzio/Cisterna ... And it wins the all-time prize for....the most imaginative use of molegrips!
Sorry Stormbird but I have to admit to liking the movie even though it was not historically correct. We all know now but the real heroes of Telemark are forever etched in our brain. Without the movie...................? As said, several of the saboteurs - 20 years later - officially stated they detested the movie. "It might have been a good film, but it had nothing to do with the operation". That's enough for me. That movie should never have been made in that way.
On the other side 100 Greatest War Movies Criteria: - These are the Greatest War Movies - 20th Century Conflicts, chosen for their quality direction, script, cinematography, acting, storyline, originality, and success. This list DOES NOT INCLUDE wars before 1900. 1. Apocalypse Now - (1979, Francis Ford Coppola, V) (Martin Sheen, Robert Duvall, M. Brando) 2. All Quiet on the Western Front - (1930, Lewis Milestone, WWI) (Lew Ayres, Louis Wolheim) 3. Saving Private Ryan - (1998, Steven Spielberg, WWII) (Tom Hanks, Edward Burns) 4. Schindler's List - (1993, Steven Spielberg, WWII) (Liam Neeson, Ben Kingsley) 5. Platoon - (1986, Oliver Stone, V) (Tom Berenger, Willem Dafoe, Charlie Sheen) 6. The Bridge on the River Kwai - (1957, David Lean, WWII) (Alec Guinness, William Holden) 7. Patton - (1970, Franklin J. Schaffner, WWII) (George C. Scott, Karl Malden) 8. The Dirty Dozen - (1967, Robert Aldrich, WWII) (Lee Marvin, Charles Bronson, Telly Savalas) 9. The Longest Day - (1962,Ken Annakin, WWII) (John Wayne, Henry Fonda, Robert Mitchum) 10. From Here to Eternity - (1953, Fred Zinnemann, WWII) (Burt Lancaster, Montgomery Clift) 11. Sergeant York - (1941, Howard Hawks, WWI) (Gary Cooper, Walter Brennan) 12. The Great Escape - (1963, John Sturges, WWII) (Steve McQueen, James Garner) 13. Battleship Potemkin (1925, Sergei Eisenstein, Odessa revolt-1905) (Alexander Antonov) 14. Das Boot - (1981, W. Ger. Wolfgang Peterson, WWII) (Jurgen Procnow) 15. The Deer Hunter - (1978, Michael Cimino, V) (Robert De Niro, Meryl Streep) 16. Full Metal Jacket - (1987, Stanley Kubrick, V) (Matthew Modine, Adam Baldwin) 17. Letters From Iwo Jima - (2006, Clint Eastwood, WWII) (Ken Watanabe, Kazunari Ninomiya) 18. A Bridge Too Far - (1977, Richard Attenborough, WWII) (Dirk Bogarde, Michael Caine) 19. The Guns of Navarone - (1961, J. Lee Thompson, WWII) (Gregory Peck, Anthony Quinn) 20. Open City - (1945, Roberto Rossellini, WWII) (Vito Annicchiarico, Nando Bruno) 21. Midway - (1976, Jack Smight, WWII) (Charlton Heston, Henry Fonda, Toshiro Mifune) 22. Thirty Seconds Over Tokyo - (1944, Mervyn LeRoy, WWII) (Van Johnson, Robert Walker) 23. The Thin Red Line - (1998, Terrence Malick, WWII) (Sean Penn, Nick Nolte) 24. Tora! Tora! Tora! - (1970, Richard Fleischer, WWII) (Martin Balsam, Joseph Cotten) 25. Black Hawk Down - (2001, Ridley Scott, Somalia) (Ewan McGregor, Josh Hartnett) 26. Stalag 17 - (1953, Billy Wilder, WWII) (William Holden, Otto Preminger) 27. Battle of Britain - (1969, Guy Hamilton, WWII) (Michael Caine, R. Shaw, Laurence Olivier) 28. The Story of G.I. Joe - (1945, William Wellman, WWII) (Robert Mitchum, Burgess Meredith) 29. The Desert Fox - (1951, Henry Hathaway, WWII) (James Mason, Richard Boone) 30. Paths Of Glory - (1957, Stanley Kubrick, WWI) (Kirk Douglas, Ralph Meeker) 31. Wings - (1927, William Wellman, WWI) (Clara Bow, Charles "Buddy" Rogers, Gary Cooper) 32. Battleground - (1949, William Wellman, WWII) (Van Johnson, Ricardo Montalban) 33. In Harm's Way - (1965, Otto Preminger, WWII) (John Wayne, Kirk Douglas) 34. MacArthur - (1977, Joseph Sargent, WWII, K) (Gregory Peck, Ed Flanders) 35. Pork Chop Hill - (1959, Lewis Milestone, Korea) (Gregory Peck, George Peppard) 36. The Big Parade - (1925, King Vidor, WWI) (John Gilbert, Renée Adorée) 37. Where Eagles Dare - (1969, Brian G. Hutton, WWII) (Richard Burton, Clint Eastwood) 38. The Desert Rats - (1953, Robert Wise, WWII) (Richard Burton, James Mason) 39. Battle of the Bulge - (1965, Ken Annakin, WWII) (Henry Fonda, Robert Shaw) 40. The Blue Max - (1966, John Guillermin, WWI) (George Peppard, James Mason) 41. The Caine Mutiny - (1954, Edward Dmytryk, WWII) (Humphrey Bogart, José Ferrer) 42. The Train - (1965, John Frankenheimer, WWII) (Burt Lancaster, Paul Scofield) 43. Back to Bataan - (1944, Edward Dmytryk, WWII) (John Wayne, Anthony Quinn) 44. Many Wars Ago (aka Uomini Contro) - (1970, Francesco Rosi, WWI) (Mark Frechette, Alain Cuny) 45. Guadalcanal Diary - (1943, Lewis Seiler, WWII) (Preston Foster, Anthony Quinn) 46. The Big Red One - (1980, Samuel Fuller, WWII) (Lee Marvin, Mark Hamill, Robert Carradine) 47. Sink the Bismarck - (1960, Lewis Gilbert,WWII) (Kenneth More, Dana Wynter) 48. They Were Expendable - (1945, John Ford, WWII) (Robert Montgomery, John Wayne) 49. Closely Watched Trains - (1966, Czech., Jirí Menzel, WWII) (Vaclav Neckar, Jitka Bendova) 50. The Dawn Patrol - (1938, Edmund Goulding, WWI) (Errol Flynn, David Niven) 51. Sahara - (1943, Zoltan Korda, WWII) (Humphrey Bogart, Lloyd Bridges) 52. In Which We Serve - (1942, Noel Coward, David Lean, WWII) (Noel Coward, John Mills) 53. The Young Lions - (1958, Edward Dmytryk, WWII) (Marlon Brando, Montgomery Clift) 54. Battle Cry - (1955, Raoul Walsh, WWII) (Van Heflin, James Whitmore, Anne Francis) 55. Flags of Our Fathers - (2006, Clint Eastwood, WWII) (Ryan Phillippe, Jesse Bradford) 56. Soldier of Orange - (1978, Netherlands, Paul Verhoeven, WWII) (Rutger Hauer) 57. Halls of Montezuma - (1950, Lewis Milestone, WWII) (Richard Widmark, Karl Malden) 58. The Fighting Sullivans - (1944, Lloyd Bacon, WWII) (Thomas Mitchell, Ward Bond) 59. The Bridges at Toko-Ri - (1954, Mark Robson, K) (William Holden, Mickey Rooney) 60. Destination Tokyo - (1943, Delmer Daves, WWII) (Cary Grant, John Forsythe) 61. Kelly's Heroes - (1970, Brian G. Hutton, WWII) (Clint Eastwood, Donald Sutherland) 62. The Bridge at Remagen - (1969, John Guillermin, WWII) (George Segal, Robert Vaughn) 63. Sands of Iwo Jima - (1949, Allan Dwan, WWII) (John Wayne, John Agar) 64. To Hell and Back - (1955, Jesse Hibbs, WWII) (Audie Murphy, David Janssen) 65. The Lost Patrol - (1943, John Ford, WWI) (Victor McLaglen, Boris Karloff) 66. Von Ryan's Express - (1965, Mark Robson, WWII) (Frank Sinatra, Trevor Howard) 67. Wake Island - (1942, John Farrow, WWII) (Robert Preston, Macdonald Carey) 68. The Boys in Company C - (1977, Sidney J. Furie, V) (Stan Shaw, Andrew Stevens) 69. Objective, Burma! - (1945, Raoul Walsh, WWII) (Errol Flynn, Henry Hull) 70. Twelve O'Clock High - (1949, Henry King, WWII) (Gregory Peck, Hugh Marlowe) 71. Operation Pacific - (1951, George Waggner, WWII) (John Wayne, Patricia Neal) 72. Gallipoli - (1981, Australia, Peter Weir, WWI) (Mel Gibson, Mark Lee) 73. Flying Leathernecks - (1951, Nicholas Ray, WWII) (John Wayne, Robert Ryan) 74. Memphis Belle - (1990, Michael Caton-Jones, WWII) (Matthew Modine, Eric Stoltz) 75. Run Silent, Run Deep - (1958, Robert Wise, WWII) (Clark Gable, Burt Lancaster) 76. The Tuskegee Airmen - (1995, Robert Markowitz, WWII) (Laurence Fishburne, Allen Payne) 77. Kanal - (1957, Andrzej Wajda, WWII) (Wienczyslaw Glinski) 78. Courage Under Fire - (1996, Edward Zwick, Iraq'91) (Denzel Washington, Meg Ryan) 79. The Sand Pebbles - (1966, Robert Wise, China uprising 1926) (Steve McQueen) 80. 633 Squadron - (1964, Walter Grauman, WWII) (Cliff Robertson, Harry Andrews) 81. Casualties of War - (1989, Brian De Palma, V) (Sean Penn, Michael J. Fox) 82. Cross of Iron - (1977, Sam Peckinpah, WWII) (James Coburn, James Mason) 83. Force 10 From Navarone - (1978, Guy Hamilton, WWII) (Robert Shaw, Harrison Ford) 84. Hell Is For Heroes - (1962, Don Siegel WWII) (Steve McQueen, James Coburn) 85. Too Late the Hero - (1969, Robert Aldrich, WWII) (Michael Caine, Denholm Elliott) 86. Merrill's Marauders - (1962, Samuel Fuller, WWII) (Jeff Chandler, Ty Hardin, Claude Akins) 87. Enemy at the Gates - (2001, Jean-Jacques Annaud WWII) (Joseph Fiennes, Ed Harris) 88. A Midnight Clear - (1992, Keith Gordon, WWII) (Ethan Hawke, Gary Sinise) 89. Dunkirk - (1958, Leslie Norman, WWII) (John Mills, Richard Attenborough) 90. The Green Berets - (1968, Ray Kellogg, V) (John Wayne, David Janssen) 91. The Story of Dr. Wassell - (1944, Cecil B. DeMille, WWII) (Gary Cooper, Laraine Day) 92. Three Kings - (1999, David O. Russell, Iraq'91) (George Clooney, Mark Wahlberg) 93. Operation Crossbow - (1965, Michael Anderson, WWII) (George Peppard, Sophia Loren) 94. The Naked and the Dead - (1958, Raoul Walsh, WWII) (Aldo Ray, Cliff Robertson) 95. Jarhead - (2005, Sam Mendes, Desert Storm) (Jamie Foxx, Jake Gyllenhaal) 96. King Rat - (1965, Bryan Forbes, WWII) (George Segal, Denholm Elliott) 97. Heartbreak Ridge - (1986, Clint Eastwood, Grenada) (Clint Eastwood, Mario Van Peebles) 98. Stalingrad - (1992, Joseph Vilsmaier, WWII) (Dominique Horwitz) 99. Torpedo Run - (1958, Joseph Pevney, WWII) (Glenn Ford, Ernest Borgnine) 100. A Walk in the Sun - (1945, Lewis Milestone, WWII) (Dana Andrews, Lloyd Bridges) 100 Greatest War Movies
That top 100 list has a decidedly U.S. bias in my view. Patton and the Dirty Dozen in the top 10?????
I think they are just the first 100 movies the writer could think of. They are obviously not in any particular discerning order.
That top 100 list has a decidedly U.S. bias in my view. Patton and the Dirty Dozen in the top 10????? Probably so, but at least "Anzio" and "The Battle of the Bulge" didn't make the list. Being that Netflix compiled the list, it was probably drawn from their most requested war movie list here in the US.
RAMBO - [FONT="]SYLVESTER STALLONE [/FONT]- Rambo managed to avoid military service in Vietnam. From 1964 to 1968, he was an athletics coach at a girl's school in France. Interestingly regarding Apocalypse Now - [FONT="]HARRISON FORD [/FONT]- Applied for conscientious objector status during the Vietnam War. He was willing to undertake alternative service, but it was never required of him.
I thought that Sly went to Canada, not France. At any rate, he definitely avoided service. And I did not know about Harrison Ford's status. He could have been drafted and serve as a medic or a paper shuffler or something.
I thought that Sly went to Canada, not France. At any rate, he definitely avoided service. And I did not know about Harrison Ford's status. He could have been drafted and serve as a medic or a paper shuffler or something. Maybe that is why the Aussie on WW2f did not like John Wayne Just a thought! Cheers Geoff
Harrison Ford's status. He could have been drafted and serve as a medic or a paper shuffler or something. That would have gone against being a conscientious objector. Perhaps he could have been drafted into the Peace Corp
Objective Burma w Errol Flynn jainso31 At least Errol Flynn tried to enlist in the services, but unfit due to TB, recurring Malaria (from his time in New Guinea) and a heart condition etc.
Maybe that is why the Aussie on WW2f did not like John Wayne Just a thought! Cheers Geoff Naw, I just think that he really doesn't like the US very much. Brad thumped him a couple of times already so maybe that's why. He always has an anti-US bash or two in more that a few of his posts, and then says he loves Americans like that Steamboat Willie German in SPR when he gets slapped or challenged.
That would have gone against being a conscientious objector. Perhaps he could have been drafted into the Peace Corp There were many CO's that were drafted and served in the medical corps, and were awarded MOH's for heroism in the pursuit of their duties. And many more served in non-combat positions stateside after it was learned that if you volunteered, you could just about pick your job. Draftees were not so lucky and only got a few choices other than infantry and maybe the infantry. New openings became available every day there. The peace corps was not an avenue to choose when being drafted. Many service age men flocked there thinking that they were safe and were drafted anyway.
