Great Grandad Prisoner of War in Japan

Discussion in 'Prisoners of War' started by Emma Squibb, Jan 8, 2018.

  1. Emma Squibb

    Emma Squibb Well-Known Member


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  3. Emma Squibb

    Emma Squibb Well-Known Member

    I will get on this today seeing as I’ve got quite far on this subject!
  4. Emma Squibb

    Emma Squibb Well-Known Member

    Amazing! Amazing! Fingers crossed on the tags!! And amazing on the cross!

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  5. Emma Squibb

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    o_OOk everyone the date of birth saga continues. Mr Jinks (Kyle) has really kindly sent me lots of new documents including what looks like a death certificate. This shows William as 36 when he died which would match up with the year his birth was registered when ordering his birth certificate (August 1906)
    Also looking properly at his marriage certificate he was 22 when he got married in March 1929 which would make it 1906. My Nan always said he was younger than her Mum (she was born 1906) so the 1905 i’d been seeing on all these records so far did seem strange and his marriage certificate obv showed him as being younger too

    But the more worrying thing is his grave says he was 37 but he was actually 36 then so his graves wrong...

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  6. KevinBattle

    KevinBattle Senior Member Patron

    Do you think he was born 2nd August 1906?
    He died 8th July 1943, so he would have been 36 and 49 weeks.
    His Japanese PoW record card shows his DoB of 2.8 1905, not 19-6, perhaps misread?
    His CWGC entry would have Additional Information to that supplied by the Army, for the family to complete and verify.
    They didn't correct his age, perhaps in error, but that's how his Age has been recorded as 37, the family didn't amend it at the time.

    In 1911 Census he was living in Pug Lane, Eynsham with his parents and 4 older sisters.
    (He had another sister born 26 Feb 1912, Beatrice Mary who married a Walton and died Jan 1999 in Ploughley).
    Address on Bea's BC is Elm Cottages, perhaps still in Pug Lane?

    There seems to be at least 4 Lambourne families in Eynsham in 1913!
    There is a History Group in Eynsham, perhaps getting in touch may reveal more family history for you.
  7. Emma Squibb

    Emma Squibb Well-Known Member

    Yeah my Nan always said it couldn’t be 1905 as her mum was older who’s 1906 and his birth certificate record showed 1906, (awaiting the actual certificate to arrive in the post) and the marriage certificate he’s signed to say he was 22 at the time which would make it 1906. Guess it doesn’t matter now, just wondering what DOB to put on the paperwork I’m sending off this weekend for his file, maybe I’ll stick a covering letter in explaining.

    That’s really interesting, I’m at my Nans again today so will ask her about his siblings. All his is fascinating!
  8. Emma Squibb

    Emma Squibb Well-Known Member

    Ready to be posted to Yokohoma this week :)

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  9. harkness

    harkness Well-Known Member

    94a Friar Street, Oxford, Oxfordshire
    Willie Thomas 10 Aug 1897 Gas Works General Labourer
    William E Lambourne 02 Aug 1906 General Labourer Thames Conservative
    Doris G Amos (Lambourne) 30 Mar 1906 Unpaid Domestic Duties
    Kenneth E Lambourne 06 Sep 1929 At School
    Sorry, this record is officially closed.
    Sorry, this record is officially closed.
  10. Emma Squibb

    Emma Squibb Well-Known Member

    Kenneth Lambourne is my Nans brother, he died a few years ago, my Nan still regularly sees his wife.

    She also has a brother called Ron born 1930 who unfortunately she hasn’t spoken to for 7 years. My Nan is Sylvia. She said everyone told her that her Dad was so happy to have a girl after 2 boys
  11. Emma Squibb

    Emma Squibb Well-Known Member

    Doris G Amos is my Nans mum after she remarried William (Bill) Amos, as mentioned earlier he was in the same camp as her Dad and then became her Step Dad!
    Just realised my Nans mum got married on her birthday!
  12. timuk

    timuk Well-Known Member

    Hi Emma,
    Don't know if you are ever in London but if so you may in the future want to go to the Imperial War Museum and read the Private Papers of D J Chenery. Private Papers of Captain D J Chenery (Documents.3836)
    Captain Dudley Chenery was in 89 Battery and would have been with your GG quite a lot and ending up together in Ube. Since I live in Scotland I've not seen them myself but there is a synopsis of what they cover in the link.
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  13. Emma Squibb

    Emma Squibb Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the info. I’m from Basingstoke and will be going up to London in the next couple of months so sounds like that’s worth a visit!
    My Nan said her Step Dad had a diary/accounts of what he went through but she can’t make a lot of it out. She was closer to him later on his life and he would tell her bits and pieces
  14. alieneyes

    alieneyes Senior Member

    This can very easily be fixed. CWGC won't drop what they're doing to have the error fixed but upon proof of his true age his stone goes on a list of things to be fixed when they next visit the cemetery.

    Tim's right, Emma. His papers would have some interesting things in it. Like this photo:

    Collections listing for "CHENERY D J (CAPTAIN)" | Imperial War Museums


  15. Emma Squibb

    Emma Squibb Well-Known Member

    Thanks I’m awaiting his birth certificate so I guess I could send them that then when it arrives. It’s not really a problem but if it could be easily fixed that would be good.
    Be lovely to have some photos in there
  16. Emma Squibb

    Emma Squibb Well-Known Member

    Just spoke to my Nan he had 3 sisters and one of them had a baby young and this baby was brought up as his 4th sister by his Mum and Dad. Learning so much here!
  17. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Re member


    Dont forget to take time to breathe, and also to compile all the information you receive, for example you can open up an album or media from your profile page, useful for photographs or documents, you can then link them into posts.

  18. Emma Squibb

    Emma Squibb Well-Known Member

    Will do. Once I’ve got this record paperwork sent off, Red Cross one and the crosses for the Cemetary sent off Monday I will take a seat back. I’ve been printing bits off as I go and once any records come back I’ll put them together in a file together.
    I feel like after the records come through I will have more than I ever wanted and I’ll be happy with that.

    Then just waiting until the end of the month to find out the outcome on the tag
  19. Emma Squibb

    Emma Squibb Well-Known Member

    Hi all, hope you’re having a good week.

    So had my GG birth certificate through today and as we thought his year of birth is 1906 so is a year out to his grave.
    Also a very strange thing i discovered, his mother’s maiden name is also Lambourne.... so not sure if his parents were possibly cousins or just a massive coincidence?
    Found their marriage certificate to which backs this up.

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  20. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Re member

    Hi Emma
    Re birth cert details - after 1916 (I think) there was a requirement to always add the mothers maiden name, although I have to say that is not always the case. Before then there was no mandatory requirement to add the mothers details to a birth registration form - maybe with all those kids in Vicorian & Edwardian Britain they didnt have the time.

    It would seem she was born a Lambourne, from a family tree on Ancestry
    Mary Lambourne
    BIRTH ABT 1872 • Headington, Oxfordshire
    DEATH ABT 1947 • Witney, Oxfordshire, England

    Mary Lambourne
    Birth: Abt 1872 - Oxfordshire
    Death: Abt 1947 - Witney, Oxfordshire, England
    Marriage: 4 Feb 1900 - Eynsham, Oxfordshire, England
    Spouse: William Lambourne
    F: Charles Lambourne
    M: Lucy Lambourn

    England & Wales, Civil Registration Birth Index, 1837-1915
    Name: Mary Lambourne
    Registration Year: 1874
    Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
    Registration district: Headington
    Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
    Inferred County: Oxfordshire
    Volume: 3a
    Page: 640

    There is more but dont want to make you explode


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