Casualty Service and Paybook Collection

Discussion in 'WW2 Militaria' started by AB64, Jul 27, 2011.

  1. The Viking

    The Viking Active Member



    Hi what an amazing collection and it is nice to see someone them saving them from being neglected and lost.
     
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  2. AB64

    AB64 Senior Member

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    23411 John Clarke of 3rd Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers, he was initially 12th Battalion and was posted to the 9th Battalion, part of the 36th Ulster Division, in France late 1916 - he was listed as wounded late 1917 and again early 1918 - he passed away in Oswestry Military Hospital 20/11/18 - I'm not sure if this was from his wounds suffered earlier in the year - a reserve Battalion of the Inniskillings was based in Oswestry at the time so its possible he had recovered or was recovering and something else happened to him to cause his death.

    During his time with the 12th Battalion they were involved in quelling the Easter Rising so he may have been involved in this action

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  3. AB64

    AB64 Senior Member

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    1316626 Maldwyn Herbert LEE, who died 19/6/44 he is commemorated on the Malta Memorial - thanks to jonheyworth for some basic info on the circumstances which he posted over on another forum "died in an accident on duty when he was reported missing believed drowned at Bone beach, his death being presumed"

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  4. Uncle Target

    Uncle Target Mist over Dartmoor

    I never cease to be surprised by people on this forum. I should have stuck to the principles that I was taught many years ago. Don't pigeon hole people or have preconceived idea's.
    I honestly thought that you were someone with fetish for rules and Regs. Probably due to your ID name.

    The only things that I collected were ATB magazines until I inherited the Wartime Letters of Noel Beadle and made contact with families' related to his Regiment.
    Which coincidentally, I was an Army Cadet with post war. All my hundreds of Britain's soldiers and Dinky military vehicle's were lost or given to less fortunate families by my parents.
    I was close to selling the letters but copied them then deposited them in a county archive, retaining the rights to use them.

    I did however prefer to fire the real thing, what ever it was, must have been the influence of old fashioned Bonfire Nights.

    Oddly I haven't pressed my own clothes since 1998 when I handed my kit in.
     
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  5. AB64

    AB64 Senior Member

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  6. Uncle Target

    Uncle Target Mist over Dartmoor

    I have begun casually plodding my way through your collection when things are quiet and I need something to occupy my mind. I hope that I can clear up a few gaps in your research if I come across them, using my personal knowledge, both military and civilian. I live close to the geographic centre of the UK.

    #18 H D Nichols killed in Kidderminster 1946. Based on IOW lived in Rhyll.
    He would probably have been going home as he was killed on the route from IOW via the Cotswolds and Worcester.
    See route, no motorways then.

    Hope you dont mind me doing this. I wont go into details but I can find time to do so and it is somehow fascinating.
    I came here hoping to help people find answers to their queries but there are so many experts and fewer enquiries. However I have certain strengths such as the fact that I spent 55 years working as an engineer, for forty of which I travelled the length and breadth of the country and much of Europe, clocking up 1000 miles a week driving a car for many of them and at one time forty flights a year around Europe.
    Now aged 73 I am mostly stuck at home with certain "underlying health issues" as they say.
     

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  7. minden1759

    minden1759 Senior Member

    Uncle T.

    You keep it coming. Every little bit helps.

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  8. AB64

    AB64 Senior Member

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    2037617 L/Cpl Cecil Howard Foden of 38th Field Company RE, 5th Division - he was killed at De Panne 31/5/40, at this point he was involved in the construction of the truck piers, in a German bombing raid 1 officer and 6 other ranks of the Company were killed including L/Cpl Foden - the incident is covered on a previous thread 38 Field Company, Royal Engineers at De Panne 1940 | WW2Talk

    Sapper Bell earlier in the thread was also 38th Coy killed on Sicily
     
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  9. AB64

    AB64 Senior Member

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    6406546 Harold FORD of 1/5th Queens part of 7th Armoured Division who died of wounds 16/6/44 (I believe wounded the same day) this was shortly after the Battalion had been involved in the Brigade Box fighting. Pte Ford was a signaller and had previously served with 10th Royal Sussex

    edit - if anyone has the War Diary for around the day it'd be good to have a copy, cheers

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    Further edit to add an image of Pte Ford along with some other documents - one of these identifies Gunshot wound abdomen as the cause of his hospitalisation and therefore his death

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  10. AB64

    AB64 Senior Member

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    James Ronald JONES who enlisted in the RAC as 7945721 then in 1943 got a Commission in the Indian Army with the IAOC in 1945 he transferred to the RAOC as 355394, on 2/11/45 he was killed in a fire in an ammunition depot at Panagarh - he was posthumously awarded a Kings Commendation for Bravery I'm assuming this may be linked to his death

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  11. AB64

    AB64 Senior Member

    Updates made to Pte Ford (post 248) with more images and cause of death
     
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  12. Alan Innes

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  13. Alan Innes

    Alan Innes New Member

    Thanks very much for this. Gordon Symon was my Uncle and none of the remaining family have seen these photos and articles before.
     
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  14. AB64

    AB64 Senior Member

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    4805467 Albert Sanders, 9 Platoon, A Company, 6th Seaforths - L/cpl Sanders was killed during the crossing of the Garigliano - A Company led the crossing for the Battalion

    This is the 3rd book in the thread to a member of 5th Division killed that day, the other 2 being Davies and Calderwood

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  15. AB64

    AB64 Senior Member

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    1141987 Alfred Alexander RUDGE or the RA - discharged in 1942 as unfit he died 4/1/47 of TB, its one of those ones that doesn't seem like a military death but the CWGC have him included and he has one of their headstone so I'll include him

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  16. AB64

    AB64 Senior Member

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    2078320 Glennis Gordon HOW, 228 Field Coy RE, he died 2/1/45 of a Subarachnoid Haemorrhage (a type of stroke caused by a bleed on the brain from what I can see) - its a shame I didn't get this just over a month ago as I must have walked past his grave in Napes at the start of September but at that point it wasn't one I had any specific interest in

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  17. Thank you for all of this information on George Lisle, it's much appreciated. He was an uncle I never knew, died before I was born. He was my Mother's brother, the only boy with 4 sisters. His father was also George and George Jnr was known as Sonny or Our Son in the family. I'll be sure to share all of this with his last remaining relatives.
     
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  18. AB64

    AB64 Senior Member

    Glad my post is of interest, I visited his grave in Minturno last month and paid my respects to him. Unfortunately I've not been able to add any detail to the circumstances or location of his death (I've tried but unable to get War Diaries for the unit) but your post has given me a nudge so I will try again as it almost does a disservice to him to just say he was Killed in Action without being able to tell a more complete story. If there are any photos of him in teh family please feel free to add them

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  19. Many thanks, it's much appreciated. I was told years ago that, just after the war in Italy had ended, he was in the back of a lorry with the other men and they drove over a landmine. The driver survived. George had either just finished his shift as driver a few minutes before or was about to start his shift, can't remember which way round it was. I'm visitng the one other remaining relative in December and will try to find out more and also if there are any pictures. Unfortunately, she was also very young when george died. I have spoken to her as we were a bit confused by the "North East Roll Call Of Honour" newspaper article posted earlier. This show his widow as Mrs G.M. Lisle, howevere her name was Florence May. Must have been a misprint in the article.
     
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  20. Gents, thank you again for all the informatiom. I visited my cousin last week who couldn't believe how much there was. A few tears were shed. She still has some contact with George Lisle's son Terence and will get touch with him to share what I printed for her.
     
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